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post #1 of 41 Old 04-19-2017, 09:50 PM Thread Starter
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What 33 inch tire type/width for mostly street?

I have a 2000 TJ with 4" lift. I've gone through several sets of BF Goodrich 33x12.50x15 Mud Terrains, and I've always liked them.

I need new tires, but I seldom take my Jeep off road anymore, just some dirt roads and easy trails now and then, so I'd like something quieter and longer wearing than the Mud Terrains. I want a tire that works well on the street, but can be used on non-challenging trails.

I'm guessing an All Terrain tire would be the street-leaning compromise. Would a narrower width, like an 11.5 or 10.5, be reasonable for 33's on a 4" lift?

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post #2 of 41 Old 04-19-2017, 11:42 PM Thread Starter
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A couple of other things perhaps worth mentioning, just in case any of it has a bearing on tire width choice of 10.5 or 12.5.

4.0L Sport TJ, 5-speed manual. 4.56 gears. Detroit locker in the rear, ARB air lockers in front. 4" Teraflex lift. Teralow kit. My wheels are 15x8 steel. I've got a Warn front bumper and winch, Garvin rear bumper with swing gate spare tire carrier, side rock rails, high-lift jack, gas tank and skid plate armor. All that adds up to a lot of extra weight over a stock TJ.
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In the past I have run 33 and 35 X 12.5 33s on 15s. My current set of tires are 34X10.5. Even tough I am now running bias ply tires they are easier to balance (I use BBs) than the wider radials.


I am also calming down on my wheeling and my next set of tires won't be as aggressive or at least they will be radials but the will be 10.5s.


Dick Cepeck has some more aggressive tires that are supposed to have a strong sidewall and then BFG has a couple 33X10.5s.


Even though I am not as concerned about the aggressive of the tread I still want a strong side wall. Years ago BFGs tires didn't seem to have as strong of a side wall as other options. I am not sure if that is still the case.


I have 34X10.5 on the Jeep and 33X12.5 on the trailer.

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It means new wheels, but I would look at what is available in a 265/75-16 or 285/75-16. Opens up a lot more options and a little narrower at an equivalent 32X10.50 or 33X11.50. Should be able to sell your current wheel/tires to cover most of the cost of new black 16" wheels.

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It means new wheels, but I would look at what is available in a 265/75-16 or 285/75-16. Opens up a lot more options and a little narrower at an equivalent 32X10.50 or 33X11.50. Should be able to sell your current wheel/tires to cover most of the cost of new black 16" wheels.




When you go with 16" are stuck mostly with E and some D rated tires. Not the best choice for lighter vehicles. There are some D rated tires that people find acceptable.

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When you go with 16" are stuck mostly with E and some D rated tires. Not the best choice for lighter vehicles. There are some D rated tires that people find acceptable.
In a 285, yes most are D or E range, but there are a large number of C range tires in a 265.
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In the past I have run 33 and 35 X 12.5 33s on 15s. My current set of tires are 34X10.5. Even tough I am now running bias ply tires they are easier to balance (I use BBs) than the wider radials.


I am also calming down on my wheeling and my next set of tires won't be as aggressive or at least they will be radials but the will be 10.5s.


Dick Cepeck has some more aggressive tires that are supposed to have a strong sidewall and then BFG has a couple 33X10.5s.


Even though I am not as concerned about the aggressive of the tread I still want a strong side wall. Years ago BFGs tires didn't seem to have as strong of a side wall as other options. I am not sure if that is still the case.


I have 34X10.5 on the Jeep and 33X12.5 on the trailer.

That is a good-looking Jeep, Ross.

I know what you mean about BFG sidewalls. I holed one with an oak sapling while rock crawling many years ago. The 33x10.50 BFG A/T is one of the tires I'm considering. I'm not going to be rock crawling with them.
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It means new wheels, but I would look at what is available in a 265/75-16 or 285/75-16. Opens up a lot more options and a little narrower at an equivalent 32X10.50 or 33X11.50. Should be able to sell your current wheel/tires to cover most of the cost of new black 16" wheels.
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When you go with 16" are stuck mostly with E and some D rated tires. Not the best choice for lighter vehicles. There are some D rated tires that people find acceptable.

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In a 285, yes most are D or E range, but there are a large number of C range tires in a 265.
What is the about the load rating that I should understand? I've never paid attention to that before. Is it a matter of tire weight, or are there other considerations?
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What is the about the load rating that I should understand? I've never paid attention to that before. Is it a matter of tire weight, or are there other considerations?
Load rating reflects the relative stiffness of the tire carcass. A heavier vehicle needs a stiffer tire. But then you put a tire made for the heavier vehicle on a lighter vehicle and your tires start to act like the tires on Fred Flintstone's car.
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Thanks, biffgnar. So stick with C range, especially for mostly street driving.
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Get some BFG KO2 All-Terrains in a 33x12.50 size. Done.
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What is the about the load rating that I should understand? I've never paid attention to that before. Is it a matter of tire weight, or are there other considerations?
You want a tire that is designed to do the job you are asking it to do.

If you want a tire that can carry a lot of weight you get a tire that is designed to carry a lot of weight.if you want a tire design to go off-road you get a tire design to go off off-road. If you want to get a tire to run down the highway, you get a tire that is designed to run down the highway. If you want a compromise between a Highway Tire and a off-road tire an AT Tire maybe what you want. Now you may want a Highway Tire or an off-road tire or even an AT Tire designed to carry a heavier load, so you get one of those. But if you get a tire designed to carry a heavier load, regardless of what other attributes it may offer, it may ride harsh and not as smooth as a tire that is designed to carry the weight that you're asking it to carry.

Other issues you may face on a vehicle that if it is too light for the tire that it may not Flex or conform to things such as rocks or other obstacles that you are trying to climb over and this can affect its performance.

People often think because a tire has a higher load rating the sidewall will be more puncture-resistant since it's designed to operate with higher air pressure.

A tire designed for off-roading, with a sidewall that is more resistant to puncture, is not the sames as a tire designed to run at a higher pressure to carry a heavier load.

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^--- Thank you for the explanation, Ross.
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Get some BFG KO2 All-Terrains in a 33x12.50 size. Done.
I'm sure those would be great. I'm wondering if the 10.50 width might improve my highway gas mileage a bit due to lower unsprung weight and rolling resistance.
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