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Unread 04-18-2008, 05:16 PM   #1
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Unbalancable Tires

When we threw them on the machine, they walked too much to be balanced. Unfortunately, they wobble very badly. Is there any way counteract this? One wobbles bad enough that the guy behind me stopped at a light and told me to check my lugs. It's bad. Any suggestions?

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Unread 04-18-2008, 05:34 PM   #2
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If you bought them new, you should have returned them.
Once in a while a bad tire comes along. I once got 3 bad ones out of a set of 4! (They balanced perfectly but still vibrated on the road - turned out they weren't round!)

First I would check the rims. Then the tires.
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Unread 04-18-2008, 08:40 PM   #3
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walked too much to be balanced? WTF is that? anyhow you could have them broken down and spun 180 degrees on the rim and try that. that helps sometimes
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Did you check for bent wheels?
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Unread 04-18-2008, 08:51 PM   #5
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As the others have stated, check your rims, then go back to the dealer and have them check them, they sound defective. I would also check your hubs, you may have a bent flange. If the tires are ok but need an obscene amount of rim weights, try using BB's or steel shot. For a 31" tire use @ 8oz per tire. I have done this for years and I can tell you that the only adverse effect is e not having to fork over $$ to my local tire shop for balancing.

The BB's dynamically balance the tire on a constant basis, not a "snap shot" balance like traditional balancing does. The BB's use centrifigal/centerpedal forces to constantly "dynamically" balance the tire as it runs down the road at speed greater than @ 25-30mph, speeds less than this do not create enough centrifugal force to need balancing. The BB's will balance the tire across the entire tread surface (inside) and not some arbitray point that will change as the tire wears. I have found that using BB's (Dynabeads, Equal or other dynamic balancing media) that the tires run cooler, last longer and my shocks last longer as well. When you come to a stop, I can just hear a "waterfall" sound as the BB's cascade onto the rim with the top off and no music on.
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As the others have stated, check your rims, then go back to the dealer and have them check them, they sound defective. I would also check your hubs, you may have a bent flange. If the tires are ok but need an obscene amount of rim weights, try using BB's or steel shot. For a 31" tire use @ 8oz per tire. I have done this for years and I can tell you that the only adverse effect is e not having to fork over $$ to my local tire shop for balancing.

The BB's dynamically balance the tire on a constant basis, not a "snap shot" balance like traditional balancing does. The BB's use centrifigal/centerpedal forces to constantly "dynamically" balance the tire as it runs down the road at speed greater than @ 25-30mph, speeds less than this do not create enough centrifugal force to need balancing. The BB's will balance the tire across the entire tread surface (inside) and not some arbitray point that will change as the tire wears. I have found that using BB's (Dynabeads, Equal or other dynamic balancing media) that the tires run cooler, last longer and my shocks last longer as well. When you come to a stop, I can just hear a "waterfall" sound as the BB's cascade onto the rim with the top off and no music on.
my friend just showed me that he did this today with BB's. You would never know the tires weren't professionally balanced. Not to hijack but how much would you use per tire with 33's? I wanna do it when i get new tires
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Don't worry about hijacking. how bout 35's?
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So you put the BBs in the tire before you set the bead, air it up as normal and the BBs do thier thing inside the tire and balance it as it goes? And we are talking about copper BBs? Like in a BB gun? I gotta try this.
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Plastic airsoft BBs.

http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/...ad.php?t=43333
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Check here www.innovativebalancing.com/bigtirechart.htm

I use Steel BB's because I can use a magnent o get them out if I have to fix a flat on the trail, Airsoft and other non-metalic media will stick to the adhesive and cause problems (ie. looks like a marital aide inside the tire). With a magnent I can pull them out, fix the tire, and put them back in after it is all dry. To get the other stuff out, you have to use a shop vac and you really can't reuse them.

If you have a gun shop/sporting goods store that carries steel shot (for reloading shot gun shells) you can use that as well, but yes basically just use steel BB's. IIRC it is about 432 BB's for @ 8oz.

My wife went to the post office and used the digital scale (after hrs to avoid funny looks) and ziplock baggies to measure them out for me .

Here is a write up I did on it, Starting at post # 25 www.planet4x4.net/forums/general-4x4-talk/5643-army-surplus-tires-2.html lemmie know if you have any ?'s.
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