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Unread 03-01-2010, 02:35 PM   #1
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TSL Boggers - Need Opinions and Photos

I am currently running **** Cepek 33x12.50-15 Mud Country tires on my Jeep.
They have been a great tire, and I cant really complain about them except for the real slop.

But, I would like something more aggressive for my set of tires.
I am actually having a hard time finding anything. most are no more aggressive than my mud countries, unless I goto a bogger, or they dont come in the size I need.

What has really caught my eye are the TSL boggers, when they are cut and siped.
Something like this...



Seems they do really well offroad, as is to be expected. But I was wondering if i cut/groove and sipe them if they will make them good for the street also.
This Jeep is my daily driver, and while I only put around 5K miles on it a year, I still want it to do well on the wet and snowy streets.

I would love to hear what you guys think of them, especially if you have grooved them.
I would also love to see some photos of some Jeeps with 33" boggers on them.

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Unread 03-01-2010, 02:36 PM   #2
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sorry but boggers and and daily driven dont go in the same sentence. have you looked into the TSL radial
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Unread 03-01-2010, 02:47 PM   #3
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Ive seen the TSL Radials yes, but honestly, besides the further apart outter lugs, they dont seem ALL that much more aggressive.
And honestly, for some strange reason I just really dont care for the way they look, I know that shouldnt be a big concern, its just something that bugs me.

I know that a bogger is not gonna be great on the street, I am just wondering how bad it would be, if grooved and siped also.

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Unread 03-01-2010, 03:07 PM   #4
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grooved and siped,you are looking at about 8k to 12k miles out of them.but you cannot beat the off-road performance of the grooved ans siped bogger.Also the road noise,imo is the best,it sure does turn heads.loud tires=
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Unread 03-02-2010, 01:38 PM   #5
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grooved and siped,you are looking at about 8k to 12k miles out of them.but you cannot beat the off-road performance of the grooved ans siped bogger.Also the road noise,imo is the best,it sure does turn heads.loud tires=
i have them on my cj7 and they do great offroad i DO NOT drive them on the road for the $$$$$$$$$ you are going to waste. yes he is right you wont get any real miles out of them
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Unread 03-02-2010, 05:32 PM   #6
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If you street drive boggers at all they will eat those tires in no time.
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Unread 03-02-2010, 10:33 PM   #7
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THE BOGGERS SUCK ON THE ROAD. END OF DISCUSSION.

If you drive your Jeep more than a few times a month on pavement, don't even consider these tires. I ran 33x14 Boggers for a while. Unless you want to drive around at like 12psi, you'll wear out the center of the tread in no time. They are loud and horrible on pavement.

I'd even steer clear of the bias ply TSLs for anything remotely close to an occasional daily driver. Been there, done that. Flat spots, noise, sucky wet traction.

Both are excellent tires offroad. I've never driven the radial TSLs.
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Unread 03-04-2010, 07:31 AM   #8
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I have the radial tsl's on my wrangler and to be honest, i love them.
they are just a little louder then my stock tires, unless they go out of balance( ie. throw a weight)
they have decent wet traction, decent in the snow, they suck on ice( then again what doesn't aside from a studded tire???) i have got about 20,000 out of them and they are on 1/2 tread. they key to getting great life is rotate, rotate, rotate.

those boggers cut and siped would be a little better then a stock bogger, but these guys are right
boggers plus daily driver does not work
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Thanks for the input guys, I was figuring that would be the case.
A shame, I get they are amazing offroad, but just not work it for me for a DD.
The search goes on I guess for more tire options lol

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Unread 03-04-2010, 07:37 AM   #10
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Get you some thornbirds or something of that flavor! they have those crazy sidewalls which look real meaty, they classify them as a Radial and I have heard they are not terrible in the mud as well
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Get you some thornbirds or something of that flavor! they have those crazy sidewalls which look real meaty, they classify them as a Radial and I have heard they are not terrible in the mud as well
Thornbirds are bias not radial.
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Unread 03-04-2010, 08:28 AM   #12
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Yea I want to stay away from bias ply, and I am sorry, but I just cant stand the way those Thornbirds look.

I like the new kevlar MTRs, I just wish they werent a directional AND asymmetrical tire.
They are getting great reviews though.

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Unread 03-04-2010, 10:39 AM   #13
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assymetrical not directional you can mount them on any side.
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Unread 03-04-2010, 10:46 AM   #14
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I know they SAY you can, and you have to, but it bugs me.
if you notice when you see them mounted the driver side is facing one way and other driver side is facing the other.
They may not being calling it directional, but it is a directional pattern.
I know they SAY it performs the same both directions, but I find that hard to believe,
if you angle the lugs forward vs. backwards, it has to have some effect.
Its funny how many times I have seen people comment that people have those tires mounted wrong or backwards.

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Unread 10-03-2010, 07:10 PM   #15
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I run Super Swamper SSR radials on my chevy and got over 60,000 out of them. I am running them on my Jeep and they have over 10,000 miles on them and not showing any sign of much wear. They pull great off road and not bad mannered on the road.
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