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Unread 08-18-2013, 02:05 PM   #1
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Which of these tires.....

Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac
or
BF Goodrich All-Terrain T/A KO

I don't do any rock crawling. Dirt/mud/gravel roads, crossing some pastures, maybe over or through some high brush when the fields haven't been bushhogged in awhile.

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Unread 08-18-2013, 02:35 PM   #2
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I know guys love them but I HATED the bfg at. I thought it was average in the snow and not great in the rain. And it was dismal Offroad...

Of the 2 I'd consider the Goodyear. Thinking outside those 2 consider a set of falken wild peaks.

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Wild peaks then the duratracs. Obviously 2 different drivers and 2 different rigs. But you can at least see them in action.

That said. The duratracs clear better than the wild peaks.


Just a suggestion since you're looking for what seems to be a mild tire.



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Unread 08-18-2013, 07:27 PM   #3
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I just got a set of duratracs stock size for my rubi. I'm a fan.

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Unread 08-18-2013, 07:48 PM   #4
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I have never run duratracs or wild peaks but hear great things about both. I have run many of the other at's and mt's and keep going back to bfg. The km2s I took of my jeep yesterday have over 70,000 miles on them and still have around 25% tread depth. They suck on snow and ice but do everything else pretty well. I siped them which did help in the snow more then I expected.
I have never run a tire besides a dedicated snow tire that performed better on snow and ice better then a bfg ko. They may not do great in deep snow but on a daily driver thats the tire I go to. I have 31/10.50/15 ko's on my awd explorer and it never slips or slides on snow or ice period. It's so planted it's boring.
There may be better tires out there for a dd then a bfg but tires cost so much now I dont dare gamble. I know I am getting a tire that will do everything I need on my jeep for 70-80,000 miles with nothing more then a tape measure alighnment and frequent rotations.

Fwiw I used to love coopers and still love the offroad perormence but could not get more then 45,000 miles out of them. Thats around $1000 every 18 months for me.
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Unread 08-18-2013, 08:59 PM   #5
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I love my duratracs
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Unread 08-18-2013, 09:22 PM   #6
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I run the BFG's all year, in the snow they perform good. It gets real snowy and icy here and they have been great!

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Unread 08-18-2013, 09:42 PM   #7
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I have never run duratracs or wild peaks but hear great things about both. I have run many of the other at's and mt's and keep going back to bfg. The km2s I took of my jeep yesterday have over 70,000 miles on them and still have around 25% tread depth. They suck on snow and ice but do everything else pretty well. I siped them which did help in the snow more then I expected.
I have never run a tire besides a dedicated snow tire that performed better on snow and ice better then a bfg ko. They may not do great in deep snow but on a daily driver thats the tire I go to. I have 31/10.50/15 ko's on my awd explorer and it never slips or slides on snow or ice period. It's so planted it's boring.
There may be better tires out there for a dd then a bfg but tires cost so much now I dont dare gamble. I know I am getting a tire that will do everything I need on my jeep for 70-80,000 miles with nothing more then a tape measure alighnment and frequent rotations.

Fwiw I used to love coopers and still love the offroad perormence but could not get more then 45,000 miles out of them. Thats around $1000 every 18 months for me.
My tundra came with bfg at's and I couldn't get 30k out of em. Put wildpeaks on and the difference was staggering.

I also tried bfg at's in 31x10.50s on one of my Tj's, 285/75/16 on my Jk, and 35x12.50 on another one of my Tj's.

On all of them the wet weather performance was dismal. The hydroplane resistance just wasn't there.

I liked the km2s my wife had on her Jk. They were good in te snow till about half tread. Then they started to get sketchy.
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Unread 08-18-2013, 11:05 PM   #8
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I ran bfg at's on my first TJ when i lived in Georgia and they sucked in mud and rain.
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Unread 08-18-2013, 11:13 PM   #9
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I also recommend checking out the falken wildpeak/rocky mountain. Only downside is once they wear down your left with solid connected tread. Been pretty happy with mine so far.
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Unread 08-18-2013, 11:35 PM   #10
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What about the Falken Rocky Mountain or Cooper Discover ST? Both relatively cheap but have great on and off road ability.
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Unread 08-19-2013, 04:32 AM   #11
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I currently run 33x10.5x15 BFG ATs in the winter months and they are a beast through the snow that I have driven through. I was driving through 30+ inches last winter in one of the blizzards we had and I didnt once get stuck or even feel like I was going to get stuck. I pulled 2 different F250 plow trucks out as well during that storm. I havent really tested them in the mud but I imagine they wont be as good as my 33x12.5 pro comp mud tires (summer rubber). I havent tried the duratracs so I cant really compare the two, but the BFGs work great on my rig. I previously ran 31x10.5 BFG Muds KM1 and got over 60k on them and they still have tread left. On a light weight jeep BFGs last a LONG time.
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Unread 08-19-2013, 04:43 AM   #12
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It looks like the Duratracs would clear mud a little better. Now to figure out the biggest size I can put on.
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Unread 08-19-2013, 07:25 AM   #13
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My tundra came with bfg at's and I couldn't get 30k out of em. Put wildpeaks on and the difference was staggering.

I also tried bfg at's in 31x10.50s on one of my Tj's, 285/75/16 on my Jk, and 35x12.50 on another one of my Tj's.

On all of them the wet weather performance was dismal. The hydroplane resistance just wasn't there.

I liked the km2s my wife had on her Jk. They were good in te snow till about half tread. Then they started to get sketchy.
This is why these which tire questions threads are almost useless. Everyone has different opinions on what all around performence is and the vehicle they are mounted on can change everything.
I think the manufactures sometimes specify a different rubber compound for a tire they choose as the oe tire. I think that may be why you only got 30,000 on your tundra tires.

As far as wet weather performence I have never had a problem with any of the at or mt style treads I have tried. I think it is because I realize I am driving a lifted jeep with fat tires on it and it is raining. I just slow down and hang on when I see deep puddles. I use my head and it seems to drive just fine.
My other daily driver is a camaro with a detroit locker, 4:11 gears, 400hp and drag radials. Everything drives better then that so the bfgs on my jeep seem great in the rain to me.

A good freind also ran bfgs for years with great results untill he bought a new jk rubicon with the stock bfgs on it. They rode like crap, didnt perform that well for being locked f and rear . By 30,000 they were hard as a brick and cupped terribly. He did run them for another 30,000 because they just wouldn't wear out.
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Unread 08-19-2013, 05:44 PM   #14
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I think the Falken would be a terrible choice for you. You said gravel roads. The Falkens pick up rocks worse than any tire I've ever used and then bomb your rocker panels when you hit the road again. You said mud.. the Falken is the least aggressive AT on the market. They are also very heavy.

The BFG KO simply sucks. Terrible in the mud and snow, perhaps the worst AT on the market for both those terrains. They are extremely expensive too. A 30 year old tread design that's overpriced.

The Duratrac would be an excellent choice for your needs. They are relatively quiet, dig hard in the mud/snow, and work good on rainy roads too. They are also lightweight. They make for a great tire. Only drawback is the price.

You should look at the Cooper AT3. I think you'd be very happy with it.
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Unread 08-20-2013, 09:38 AM   #15
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I agree with the Duratracs for those same reasons. I'm in no hurry for tires, just planning ahead. Now I need to figure out if I can step up in size a little. I have 1" coil spacers that actually measured 1 1/4". Don't want to do any trimming on the flairs and don't plan on disconnecting the sway bars so no big flexing. I have already adjusted the steering stops but could put in another washer if needed. Would like to go with 32" or possibly 33" with a narrower width to keep from rubbing.
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