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Unread 01-26-2014, 04:58 PM   #556
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A quick Google image search came up with this; didn't even go to Goodyear's website.






Hope this helps.



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Problem with your info is we are talking about a different tire.

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Unread 01-26-2014, 05:07 PM   #557
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[QUOTE=silvanus;19760057]I bought a set of five GY Adventure AT's in October. They've got 2.7K on them. My TJL is a DD, and have driven through slush,snow, rain, and they handled the wintery stuff flawlessly! Also, they balanced well and ride super smooth! My MPG gained a little to boot.

Keep us informed about these tires as these are the ones I'm planning for my 1 ton diesel PU.
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Unread 01-26-2014, 05:59 PM   #558
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I share your questions about the nature of Goodyear's kevlar usage. Where is it? What is it for? Is it better than an alternative material? If so, why/how? I wish they were more transparent about it instead of basically just saying, "Kevlar!" while doing jazz hands.

Great, Goodyear--kevlar. I get it. What about it?

"Um....kevlar!" (jazz hands)
I lived in the ghetto when I put my silent armor w/Kevlars on. I use to claim they were bullet proof, so don't even bother trying to shoot em up.

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Unread 01-26-2014, 06:04 PM   #559
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Silvanus, how come you chose Goodyear Adventurer over Silent Armor or another brand of AT?

I'd be interested to hear your reasons.
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Unread 01-26-2014, 06:32 PM   #560
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Haven't had a chance to do any meaning full trail exploring yet, but when I do I'll plug in a report.
They're a good Tire for what I need, being that they're a newly designed tread it'll be a few years before we know they're a worthy AT!
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Unread 01-26-2014, 06:39 PM   #561
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Problem with your info is we are talking about a different tire.
Sorry about that; didn't read the thread, just skimmed over the last couple of pages.


Anyway, here's the information I could find with another Google search, but with the correct tire.

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Wrangler is built much like any other steel-belted radial tire, except a layer of Kevlar replaces the usual layer of nylon cord. Starting from the outside, there's the tread, then a layer of Kevlar (one layer for standard load tires, and two layers on the Light Truck or "Pro Grade" version), then two steel belts. Replacing the nylon layer with Kevlar results in a tire that's lighter, stronger and more puncture-resistant than before.
http://suvs.about.com/od/tiresandwhe...ith-Kevlar.htm

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By the end of 2013 Goodyear plans to have a full lineup of 44 Wrangler All-Terrain Adventure with Kevlar sizes, with 20 of those sizes Pro-Grade LT fitments. The Pro-Grade LT sizes are all Load Range E tires and feature an enhanced tread compound to resist chipping and chunking. Additionally, the Pro-Grade-designated LT sizes offer two layers of Kevlar atop the steel belt for greater durability, and a heavier-duty steel belt package with 30-percent more steel than non-Pro-Grade fitments
http://www.fourwheeler.com/product-r...e-with-kevlar/


From that, it appears that the Wrangler AT Adventure & Wrangler Silent Armor have similar construction (LT AT Adventure having 2 layers of Kevlar & 30% more steel), with tread pattern and compound being the distinction between the two.

http://www.goodyear.com/en-US/tires/...75807957200000

http://www.goodyear.com/en-US/tires/...75850718900000







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Unread 01-26-2014, 07:00 PM   #562
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Well Charley,

I chose the Adventure AT cause I recently changed my job with an 77 mile daily commute ( to & from work ) also I wanted a strong tire for my two track trail exploring.
I did a great deal of research and decided on the Adventure AT, I've been a BFG guy since 1991, so it was time for a change.
Plus I wanted a strong sidewall for load capacity and trail protection that a number of AT's didn't possess.

Nothing against the other AT's, I like the looks and construction of the Adventure that's it. Isn't that what it's about, buying what we like!
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Unread 01-26-2014, 08:22 PM   #563
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The GY Adventurer looks and reads to be a great AT, but I still want to know about its mud ability.

So I'll be very interested to read Silvanus' future reports.

On thing that is already clear to me is this is one of the best on road ATs I've ever seen. 60K mile warranty and all. And unlike most super street friendly ATs, this one is tough.

I think Silvanus made a good choice for a DD Jeep that drives a 77 x 2 mile commute every day.

However, I can't imagine wanting to drive an LJ 152 miles a day. That's what luxury cars are for.
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Unread 01-26-2014, 10:14 PM   #564
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Here's a user review I found for Goodyear Adventurer.

It includes tires pics.

Observe the ridges between treadblocks. They aid self cleaning by helping reduce mud suction.

See review and pics here: http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forum...re-review.html
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Unread 01-26-2014, 11:32 PM   #565
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Sorry about that; didn't read the thread, just skimmed over the last couple of pages.


Anyway, here's the information I could find with another Google search, but with the correct tire.



http://suvs.about.com/od/tiresandwhe...ith-Kevlar.htm



http://www.fourwheeler.com/product-r...e-with-kevlar/


From that, it appears that the Wrangler AT Adventure & Wrangler Silent Armor have similar construction (LT AT Adventure having 2 layers of Kevlar & 30% more steel), with tread pattern and compound being the distinction between the two.

http://www.goodyear.com/en-US/tires/...75807957200000

http://www.goodyear.com/en-US/tires/...75850718900000







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Good find. Just as I suspected, the Kevlar isn't in the sidewall.
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Unread 01-27-2014, 12:58 PM   #566
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Here's a user review I found for Goodyear Adventurer.

It includes tires pics.

Observe the ridges between treadblocks. They aid self cleaning by helping reduce mud suction.

See review and pics here: http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forum...re-review.html
I read this review. Thanks. This convinces me even more that this is the tire for my Ford diesel 1 ton PU in their "Pro-Grade" load range E. But, for my TJ Rubicon I'm still considering the DuraTrac load range C for my desert & Mnt. off road driving when my OE old style MT/R's finally wear out. If Interco starts to make the TrXus MT in 255X85R16 size again I might also re-consider this tire for my Rubicon, if I could get a set that was round and balanced good.
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Unread 01-27-2014, 04:01 PM   #567
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I've read most of this thread... (its taken me a long time) and I'm honestly no closer to picking a tire.... I currently run 245/65-17 tires.. But they are just about worn out. and will need to be replaced, I was hoping to get 15" rims with some MT tires, but they are wearing out faster than I was expecting (i'll only get about 12k miles out of them) so I don't think i'll have the $ saved up to get the tires and rims I want, so I I think I'll stick with my current size on my current rims.

These are my options:
Dick Cepek Trail Country - $149.00 at tire rack
KumhoRoad Venture AT KL78 - $124.00 at tire rack
BridgestoneDueler A/T Revo 2 - $158.00 Tire rack
FirestoneDestination A/T - $155.00 Tire rack
Cooper Discoverer A/T3 - $147.00 at dt direct
Cooper Discoverer ATP - $150.00 at dt direct
Yokohama Geolandar A/T-S - $154.00 dt 155.00 dtd $140.00 tr
Wrangler All-Terrain Adventure with Kevlar - $173.00 tr 188.00 dtd
BFGoodrich Rugged Trail T/A - 176.00 dtd 173.00 dt
BFGoodrich Rugged Terrain T/A - 173.00 dtd $159.00 tr 171.00 dr
Hankook DynaPro ATM RF10 - $118.00 dr 150.00 dtd
Pathfinder Sport S A/T - $126.00 dtd $130.00 dt

I do a lot of off roading, I currently have Falken Rocky mountain AT tires, and other than wearing out super quick, they have held up really well, no chunking, no holes or slices, cuts, etc. you would think they were just a 40k mile tire, not a 10k mile tire. my Jeep gets about 700-900 miles a month on it max, and about 1/3-1/2 of those are on dirt, aired down to 15psi.

are there any you would rule out first? I think that's the biggest thing. Not "which is the best" as there is no "best" tire, but there are "worst" tires for sure.
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Unread 01-27-2014, 06:45 PM   #568
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I suggest ruling out load E tires for sure. Probably load D too. Look for load C.

C are tough enough and light enough. They ride more comfortably (softer) too. Also C get a lot better gas mileage than D or especially E.

Beyond that, I need to study your list more before making any other suggestions.
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Unread 01-29-2014, 01:56 PM   #569
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I checked sizes availability of GY Adventurer.

The only R15 size is 31 x 10.5 R15 and the 245 & 265 sizes do not offer a load C option.

So essentially a severe shortage of sizes I'd want in load rating C.

That's classic GY for ya.

I think it's a good tire if available in a size you want.

But for me, getting a tire in a size I'd want is priority one, and my favorite sizes are 30, 31, & 245C.
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Unread 01-29-2014, 02:51 PM   #570
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I have r17 rims currently, and unless something changes drastically, that's what I'm going to be sticking with.

Leaning towards the hankook dynapro atm tires currently, Their price is right, and they get good reviews.
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