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Unread 01-12-2014, 04:25 PM   #496
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If it was me, the Hercules AT2.

I have Cooper AT3 now. Next time I want Hercules AT2.
Welp, the ole TJ finally got a new set of skins. I went with the Hercules Terra Trac AT II. $115 a tire, good looking and quiet/comfy as can be thus far. Will update on performance in future.






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Unread 01-12-2014, 08:44 PM   #497
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Got a set of Cooper AT3 235/85 16. They are working out great for me; on a set of liberty rims.
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Unread 01-13-2014, 07:55 PM   #498
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What is the width of your liberty wheels? I like that size but I don't think they will fit my 05 Rubi Moab's. To wide. That's why I was looking at the 255x85r16 or 265x75r16 to replace my factory 245x75r16 mt/r's.
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Unread 01-13-2014, 08:40 PM   #499
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What is the width of your liberty wheels? I like that size but I don't think they will fit my 05 Rubi Moab's. To wide. That's why I was looking at the 255x85r16 or 265x75r16 to replace my factory 245x75r16 mt/r's.
I'm pretty sure his Liberty has 16 x 7 wheels, which fits 235 and 245 tires just dandy.

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Your Moabs are 16 x 8, which fit 245 (but not dandy), or fits 255 dandy and 265 dandy.

I suggest you get 265/75R16 load C for your Moabs. Mastercraft Courser CT, Cooper AT3, and Hercules AT2 all come in that size in load C. I think maybe also Duratrac might too.

That's if you care about ride quality. Load C will ride good, especially in those tires.

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If you don't mind a stiffer/harsher ride, there are a few brands making 255/85R16 load D tires (Cooper ST, Trxus MT, and maybe a few others).

If you get a load E tire, it's going to ride very rough. Up to you, but I woudn't recommend it.
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Unread 01-14-2014, 09:18 PM   #500
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That's right, the liberty wheels on my lj are 16x7"
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Unread 01-15-2014, 03:11 PM   #501
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That's right, the liberty wheels on my lj are 16x7"
What is their backspacing?
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Unread 01-15-2014, 03:18 PM   #502
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Welp, the ole TJ finally got a new set of skins. I went with the Hercules Terra Trac AT II. $115 a tire, good looking and quiet/comfy as can be thus far. Will update on performance in future.
Thanks for the post. Do you know how well they balanced out?

I am looking at the Hercules Terra Trac R/S for VanDOOM. 3 ply sidewall load range E, but I haven't seen on in person.
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Unread 01-15-2014, 06:13 PM   #503
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Thanks for the post. Do you know how well they balanced out?

I am looking at the Hercules for VanDOOM. 3 ply sidewall load range E, but I haven't seen on in person.
Do't know much about the Terra Trac R/S.

Those ATIIs in the pic above are obviously load C. I put them on some old Ecco rims that haven't had tires on them in 15 yrs.

1.25 oz?(5 segments of lead wheel weight tape) - 1.0 oz - 1.0 oz - 1.5 oz

Old (~40K) GY Silent Armor, now my spare, took 2.5oz


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Unread 01-15-2014, 06:19 PM   #504
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Wow, that is pretty good! Here is a pic of the Hercules R/S. They are a commercial tire (competes with the Silent Armor and Toyo M55). In the 265/75r16 they are 3 ply sidewall. Seem like a great tire for the money for a heavy rig like mine.

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Unread 01-18-2014, 12:58 PM   #505
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What is the width of your liberty wheels? I like that size but I don't think they will fit my 05 Rubi Moab's. To wide. That's why I was looking at the 255x85r16 or 265x75r16 to replace my factory 245x75r16 mt/r's.
They are only 7" wide (16x7")
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Unread 01-18-2014, 01:04 PM   #506
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What is their backspacing?
I'm pretty sure they are 5.5 backspacing
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Unread 01-18-2014, 06:02 PM   #507
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I just saw a local XJ with new Multi-Mile Wild Country XTX AT on it.

They are really good looking ATs with a good mix of small and larger tread blocks, smaller and larger voids, and lots of sipes.

Looks like a really good AT tread design to me. Looks to me like it has the best features of my favorite ATs (Cooper AT3, Hercules AT2, Hankook ATM) all in one tire.

Here is Multi-Mile's webpage about it http://www.multimiletires.com/tires/...ication=SUV-LT


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Unread 01-18-2014, 06:08 PM   #508
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I'm pretty sure they are 5.5 backspacing
Most Jeep stock 16 x 7 wheels are 5.25 BS. However, I'm not familiar with your wheels.
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Unread 01-18-2014, 07:44 PM   #509
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I'm also fairly certain that the 7" wide KJ wheels are 5.5" backspacing except for the Icon (originally an XJ wheel) which is 5.25". They have a 17x7.5" wheel, and I'm unsure what its backspacing is. Frankly, I don't really care very much since the differences are minimal at most. They fit, and that's good enough for me to want them (the 17x7.5 wheels).
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Unread 01-18-2014, 08:09 PM   #510
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Silverstar are 16 x 7 with 5.25" BS. Though I'm not sure what Jeep they are from. I know they did come stock on a V8 Grand Cherokee. I don't know if they also came stock on other Jeeps.

The difference between 5.5 and 5.25" BS may seem small and insignifigant, but to me it is important because it might be the differece between having enough turning radius with a 245/75R16C tire, or not.

So IMO, to fit a 245 tire on an XJ or ZJ on a 16 x 7 wheel, the BS needs to be 5.25" or less. 5" would be ideal. 5.25" is OK. I don't think 5.5" would work very well (loss of turning radius).

That's just my opinion, but it's based on fitting multiple sets of tires of various sizes on 7" wide wheels on two XJ's now.

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P.S. - the BS is a non issue if you are fitting a tire smaller than 245, but if I was going to use a tire smaller than 245, I'd just stick with 15 x 7 stock wheels and use 30 x 9.5 R15 tires.
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