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post #136 of 1245 Old 07-30-2013, 02:23 PM Thread Starter
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Good to hear from you Adragg. Thanks for your post.

Also, thanks to other posters, including those who don't like GY.

I wasn't trying to start anything, though I joked like I was. Really, I just wanted both sides of opinions about GY in the thread to balance things out.


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post #137 of 1245 Old 08-04-2013, 08:22 PM
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My personal experience, fwiw, is that the Goodyear Silent Armor Prograde with Kevlar are fantastic overland tires. Never had a flat and never re-balanced them. Wore like iron on tough rocky trails. The absolute worst tires I've ever owned were Goodyear Wrangler TDs. I got 5k miles and a lot of flats out of them before throwing them away.

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post #138 of 1245 Old 08-08-2013, 11:06 AM
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what do you guys think of this tires.

Road Venture SAT KL61

Falken Rocky Mountain ATS

Falken Wild Peak AT

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post #139 of 1245 Old 08-08-2013, 11:21 AM Thread Starter
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Road Venture SAT KL61
Welcome to the thread. Good to have you here.

Road Venture SAT KL61 is the tire Mschi772 has and likes. It's also listed in the OP and ranked among the best ATs. Please read OP carefully and you'll find it there. It was discussed plenty throughout the thread too.

It is a good tire, and a low price, so it's a great value. For more info, please read the thread. I don't intend to sound rude, but I can't type nearly as much here as has already been said earlier in thread about it.

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I don't know about the Falken tires you asked about. Please read earlier in this thread in case someone else already posted about them. I can't remember for sure, but I think maybe they were discussed a little earlier in thread.

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Welcome to the thread. Good to have you here.

Road Venture SAT KL61 is the tire Mschi772 has and likes. It's also listed in the OP and ranked among the best ATs. Please read OP carefully and you'll find it there. It was discussed plenty throughout the thread too.

It is a good tire, and a low price, so it's a great value. For more info, read the thread. I don't intend to sound rude, but I can't type nearly as much here as has already been said earlier in thread about it.

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I don't know about the Falken tires you asked about. Please read earlier in this thread in case someone else already posted about them. I can't remember for sure, but I think maybe they were discussed a little earlier in thread.
no problem, I went back the thread and found more info about SAT LK61, thanks for your help.
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what do you guys think of this tires.

Road Venture SAT KL61

Falken Rocky Mountain ATS

Falken Wild Peak AT

thank you,
Those two Falkens are the same tire. The name is just changed depending on merchant. Despite how similar the Falkens appear to the Kumhos, they're rather inferior in my opinion. The Falkens do have pretty strong sidewalls, but other than that, they're significantly heavier if memory serves, and they're made of an inferior compound that simply lacks traction in numerous situations compared to the Kumhos.

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what do you guys think of this tires.

Road Venture SAT KL61

Falken Rocky Mountain ATS

Falken Wild Peak AT

thank you,


A quick search turned up this thread from just last week:

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I have to give a thumbs up to Cooper Discoverer AT3's. Especially if you do a lot of highway driving. I have a set of 31's and they provide excellent traction and are actually quieter then the stock pizza cutters that came with my TJ.
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I don't have Cooper's now but have run them in the past and my father still uses them on a Tacoma 4x4. I always found them to good values and often overlooked.
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I don't have Cooper's now but have run them in the past and my father still uses them on a Tacoma 4x4. I always found them to good values and often overlooked.
That's always been true of Cooper tires, but the Cooper AT3 are even better than that. They are the bomb diggity do das of all the ATs of any brand that I've ever owned (including prior Coopers). The AT3 is the super dooper pooper scooper of ATs, IMO.

A few other brands of the best ATs are also great, but for the money the Cooper AT3 can't be beat. IMO

It's a great performer and a great value.

That is basically what you said, but the AT3 deserved more enthusiasm!

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Yes, and, a lot of people don't realize that most of the tires you see in the tire shops are made by Cooper. Hercules, Mickey Thompson, Mastercraft, many Big-O tires, Kenda, Dick Cepek, and some others are all produced by Cooper. Cooper also makes OEM tires for manufacturers. Up until last year, Cooper was the #2 American tire company behind Good-for-a-year. Now, Cooper has sold out to Apollo which is an Indian company...but their U.S. designs and products will still remain.

They are one of the best tires on the road and like has been said, they are often overlooked.

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Yes, and, a lot of people don't realize that most of the tires you see in the tire shops are made by Cooper. Hercules, Mickey Thompson, Mastercraft, many Big-O tires, Kenda, Dick Cepek, and some others are all produced by Cooper. Cooper also makes OEM tires for manufacturers. Up until last year, Cooper was the #2 American tire company behind Good-for-a-year. Now, Cooper has sold out to Apollo which is an Indian company...but their U.S. designs and products will still remain.

They are one of the best tires on the road and like has been said, they are often overlooked.
Hmmm, I specifically went with Coopers due to their being 'made in the USA' being one of the pro-vs-con highlights criteria on my list. If that changes I'll hate having to switch brands in my small attempt to keep money here at home.

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Hmmm, I specifically went with Coopers due to their being 'made in the USA' being one of the pro-vs-con highlights criteria on my list. If that changes I'll hate having to switch brands in my small attempt to keep money here at home.
If Cooper was bought by an Indian company (I have not verified this), where will Cooper tires be made? Possibly still made in USA. Maybe not. I don't know.

BFG is owned by Michelin (French) and BFG AT made in China now.

So it sounds like Goodyear Silent Armor for you in future. What other ATs are made in USA?

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Sometimes you hafta think who the "consumers" are and what they actually do with thier ATs. And the all the lobbyist that are promoting these products to companies...... consumer rating...nah.

If your looking for a tire that gets 40-60k miles...i wouldnt even go offroad with it. What are we driving? Honda civics?

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Sometimes you hafta think who the "consumers" are and what they actually do with thier ATs. And the all the lobbyist that are promoting these products to companies...... consumer rating...nah.

If your looking for a tire that gets 40-60k miles...i wouldnt even go offroad with it. What are we driving? Honda civics?

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What are you talking about?

Cooper AT3 has a 55,000 mile tread warranty.

Hankook ATM has a 50,000 mile tread warranty.

Several other good ATs have 50,000 to 55,000 mile tread warranties.

I don't know what warranty BFG AT has, but it typically lasts at least 50,000 miles. Usually longer.

I think most ATs last at least 50,000 miles these days.

I used a set of All Season load C tires on an XJ for 55,000 miles before they wore out, and I off roaded them often.

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