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post #16 of 30 Old 07-04-2013, 02:18 PM
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post #17 of 30 Old 07-05-2013, 09:23 AM
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Had 33x10.5 ATs on the ol' four banger previously, swapped them over with my other Jeep so I'm running 33x10.5 KM2s now. The KM2s are a bit louder than the ATs, but they ride about the same... the main performance differences between the two (in my opinion) would be the KM2s are far superior in mud (go figure), and the ATs are much better on ice. One additional note is the tread on the KM2s seems to hold up to offroad conditions better, the AT lugs tend to chunk a bit too easily.

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Had 33x10.5 ATs on the ol' four banger previously, swapped them over with my other Jeep so I'm running 33x10.5 KM2s now. The KM2s are a bit louder than the ATs, but they ride about the same... the main performance differences between the two (in my opinion) would be the KM2s are far superior in mud (go figure), and the ATs are much better on ice. One additional note is the tread on the KM2s seems to hold up to offroad conditions better, the AT lugs tend to chunk a bit too easily.
Looks good, I think that's what I'll go with. Thanks for the pic! What kind of lift are you running?
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post #19 of 30 Old 07-06-2013, 08:50 AM
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Looks good, I think that's what I'll go with. Thanks for the pic! What kind of lift are you running?
It's a 3" suspension lift that's been on for over eleven years, no body lift or spacers used anywhere.

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post #20 of 30 Old 07-06-2013, 09:45 AM
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SAMs has the km2's for $213,, wamart has the at'a for $210
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post #21 of 30 Old 07-06-2013, 10:09 AM
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If you're going with a 33 inch tire and you want performance off road, go with the mudders . The difference in weights won't affect a whole lot but they will wear a little more quickly on the highway and daily driving etc. I'm running the 33" a/ts with my 2.5 now and it's not nearly as bad as everyone makes it seem. Put em on and let the 13mpg lead you to regear to 4.88s when money allows it

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post #22 of 30 Old 07-06-2013, 10:09 AM
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I got the kanati mud hogs, best tire I ever bought.
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post #23 of 30 Old 07-06-2013, 12:54 PM Thread Starter
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I got the kanati mud hogs, best tire I ever bought.
I'm limited to bfg's or swampers it seems for 33 10.5s.
Has anyone switched from 12.5's to 10.5s notice a difference?
I'm getting some good wheel spacers either way, to make up for factory rims off set.
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post #24 of 30 Old 07-06-2013, 02:40 PM
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I'm limited to bfg's or swampers it seems for 33 10.5s.
Has anyone switched from 12.5's to 10.5s notice a difference?
I'm getting some good wheel spacers either way, to make up for factory rims off set.
I'm in the same boat as you I'm wanting to keep a more narrow tire so I'm swapping to a 16" wheel opens up a much bigger variety! If you can afford it something to consider those bfgs have weak sidewalls as do the duratracs hit a curb the other day and needless to say I'm glad I bought road hazard

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post #25 of 30 Old 07-07-2013, 09:26 AM
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Does Sams/Walmart price include tax/mounting and balancing?
If not, another option might be Tirerack.
Often, they list tire weights and construction (tread and sidewall ply info) so you can compare various options.
Tirerack price plus shipping is usually a bit less that the local folks price plus tax.
They have a link to find recommended installers by location as well.
I found a store and contacted them about having my tires directly shipped to the store. During our conversation, I asked whether or not hed match his price plus tax to Tirerack plus shipping in an effort to keep me buying from them and he agreed and beat Tirerack by a couple of $ as a nice gesture it has worked so far for about five years and countless sets of tires for the family vehicles.
Tirerack has 33x12.50-15 BFG AT for $167 while the MT KM2 are $232 .
Plenty of other AT and MT tires are listed as well.
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post #26 of 30 Old 07-07-2013, 02:05 PM
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...but plenty of mud.
That right there rules out All Terrain tires that do nothing but get packed up with mud which turns them into no-traction slicks. You definitely want some form of a true MT tire for mud, really. One good MT is the BFG Mud Terrain KM2 which is very quiet for a MT, does well in most mud, and significantly outwears most other MT tires.

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post #27 of 30 Old 07-07-2013, 06:21 PM
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Here's another few 33x11R15 choices:

Toyo MT, General Grabber, Interco M16

I think the Toyo MT or the General Grabber would be good with sipes added to center treads.
However, those 3 tires are heavy. So maybe not good for you.

The BFG AT is the only light choice in 33x10.5R15.

I've heard that Firestone Destination AT are (or were) available in 33x10.5R15. Not sure if they still are. If they are available, they are light weight per size.

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How about using 245/75R16 (31x9.5R16) load C, or 265/75R16 (32x10.5R16) load C Duratrac, Cooper AT3, or BFG AT? Those are excellent tires and are light weight per size.

Put those on 16x7 Icon aluminum wheels (stock wheels on later XJs, some later ZJs, and some KJs. Those wheels weigh same as a 15x8 aluminum wheels. So no weight gain from wheels.

You save weight on tires because of the size, and because Duratrac, Cooper AT3, and BFG AT are light weight tires per size.

With the Duratrac you have tread between AT & MT and a nice combination of performance traits.

With Cooper AT3 you have a state of the art modern AT than can handle some mud. Really. My Cooper AT3 30x9.5R15 have taken me through 4" deep mud in 2wd (open diff) without spinning, including up hill. On road it's quiet, smooth riding, low rolling resistance. Best AT I ever owned.

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post #28 of 30 Old 07-08-2013, 08:25 AM Thread Starter
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First I heard of the 33x11's might have to check those out.

(To chime in with a experience). I put my stock tires on for a trip to lower wv, canoe on top ready to camp. On the highway by Morgantown I was still reduced to 40 mph in the truckers lane.
A v8 is happening sooner then later. I can't take it anymore!!

I might just go for some 33x12 .5s instead because this winter the 4cyl is going bye byes!

That will open all kind of options up for me on tires.
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post #29 of 30 Old 07-10-2013, 01:23 AM
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First I heard of the 33x11's might have to check those out.
Keep in mind those 33 x 11 R15 are listed as 33 x 10.5 R15, but run wide.

The tires this decribes are each heavy tires. So maybe not the best choice.
Toyo MT, Interco M16, and General Grabber

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A 33 x 10.5 R15 that is light is BFG AT. The KM2 isn't as light, but not heavy either.

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post #30 of 30 Old 07-11-2013, 07:47 AM
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Its the tire all the mudders run here
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