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post #31 of 57 Old 04-26-2013, 10:44 AM
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$250...Procomp are almost always on buy 3 get 1 at 4wp...not sure if these new ones are yet, but they gave me that deal at a grand opening event here in my town.

I was looking at catalog recently and saw they come with a 40,000 no questions warranty...which I purchased as well.

Wet traction is great, dirt traction is great. And rock chips seem to be comparable to KM2s I compared on my buddies rig last weekend.
Thanks,I'm going to check those out.

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post #32 of 57 Old 04-26-2013, 10:53 AM
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I love my MTZs. Decent in mud, but really no better than most tires like KM2s and MTRs. I don't daily drive on them anymore, but they wore well when I was.

I have bias ply Rockers and hate them. Do not get bias ply Pitbull Rockers if you don't have beadlocks. I can't run my comfortably below 6 psi, and the sidewalls don't start flexing until about 2 psi, so they don't hook in rocks, and I haven't really been impressed by their performance in the mud either. Plus they ride like **** on road. If I had beadlocks I'm sure they would work better, but why should a $1700 set of tires need a $1400 set of rims to work well?
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post #33 of 57 Old 04-26-2013, 11:13 AM
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Nitto Mud Grapplers are another option not mentioned yet.

They do pretty well in the mud.

I would describe Mud Grapplers as a slightly more road friendly SS Bogger.
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post #34 of 57 Old 04-26-2013, 12:30 PM
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Thanks,I'm going to check those out.
I never had an issue with my Pro Comp tires, in fact I rather liked them. However their prices have gone up quite a bit and unless you can get a buy 3 get one free deal on them they are overpriced IMO.

I got my MTRs pretty darn cheap, between the Goodyear rebate and 100$ off promotion Discount Tire was running at the time it was a pretty easy choice. Even compared to a buy 3 get one free I think they still came out cheaper than Pro Comp.
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I never had an issue with my Pro Comp tires, in fact I rather liked them. However their prices have gone up quite a bit and unless you can get a buy 3 get one free deal on them they are overpriced IMO.

I got my MTRs pretty darn cheap, between the Goodyear rebate and 100$ off promotion Discount Tire was running at the time it was a pretty easy choice. Even compared to a buy 3 get one free I think they still came out cheaper than Pro Comp.
I wasn't seeing that when pricing out the new MTRs, but I was also looking at 16" options as well, so I had a lot of high numbers floating around.

As far as your assessment of the ProComp price point, I wonder if you are comparing experience of the old ProComp MTs or the new ones, because my inclination is that there is as much difference there as there is between the old MTRs (which sucked bawls in every aspect) and the new ones which seem to be the best thing going.

IMO, 4 Procomp Xtreme MT2s for $750 is the best buy out there...now if your deal on the new MTRs was better than that, then I would consider myself incorrect by all means.
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... the old MTRs (which sucked bawls in every aspect) and the new ones which seem to be the best thing going....
The old MTRs were awesome tires.

Sounds like you are talking specifically about the 245/75/16 MTR that came stock on the Rubi models. That tire did suck, it was nothing like the aftermarket MTRs.
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I wasn't seeing that when pricing out the new MTRs, but I was also looking at 16" options as well, so I had a lot of high numbers floating around.

As far as your assessment of the ProComp price point, I wonder if you are comparing experience of the old ProComp MTs or the new ones, because my inclination is that there is as much difference there as there is between the old MTRs (which sucked bawls in every aspect) and the new ones which seem to be the best thing going.

IMO, 4 Procomp Xtreme MT2s for $750 is the best buy out there...now if your deal on the new MTRs was better than that, then I would consider myself incorrect by all means.
For continuity I compare prices of a 15" wheel, just because that's what I have.

Your 750$ isn't including mounting/balancing or tax (if applicable). I honestly can't remember what I payed for my MTRs but I know at the time 4 Wheel Parts was running their buy 3 get 1 free on Pro Comp tires and when I compared the out the door prices the MTRs were marginally more expensive. Based on reviews I thought the MTR was a better tire and after having them a couple years I still think they are better.

If I hadn't gotten such a good deal the the MTRs I probably would have gone with Pro Comps though.
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I don't like pro comp tires. Don't know about the new Mt2's but their sidewalls are crap.
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For continuity I compare prices of a 15" wheel, just because that's what I have.

Your 750$ isn't including mounting/balancing or tax (if applicable). I honestly can't remember what I payed for my MTRs but I know at the time 4 Wheel Parts was running their buy 3 get 1 free on Pro Comp tires and when I compared the out the door prices the MTRs were marginally more expensive. Based on reviews I thought the MTR was a better tire and after having them a couple years I still think they are better.

If I hadn't gotten such a good deal the the MTRs I probably would have gone with Pro Comps though.
How are those MTRs
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For a radial, Nitto Mud Grapplers are my first choice and I will get another set.

You can't beat a Bogger for a Bias Mud tire.

A Pitbull Rocker is a great trail tire. They are OK in mud.

I'll never run a BFG KM2 again. They where one of the worst MT/offroad tires Ive ever ran. They are over rated, Over priced, and underperforming.

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For a radial, Nitto Mud Grapplers are my first choice and I will get another set.

You can't beat a Bogger for a Bias Mud tire.

A Pitbull Rocker is a great trail tire. They are OK in mud.

I'll never run a BFG KM2 again. They where one of the worst MT/offroad tires Ive ever ran. They are over rated, Over priced, and underperforming.
How are the mud grapplers
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How are the mud grapplers
They made the BFG KM2s I ran before them look like an all season.

I'm very impressed with them.They dig and clean out easily at low wheel speed. They have impressed me in the snow and on wet roads. They have good lateral traction. I'll get another set after these wear out.

The only thing I can say about them that may be a problem for some,.... They are loud and heavy.

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Your 750$ isn't including mounting/balancing..
Why yes, it is ...

Can you afford the car? Have I provided you all the information you need on the car? Do you like the car? Then buy the car.
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They made the BFG KM2s I ran before them look like an all season.

I'm very impressed with them.They dig and clean out easily at low wheel speed. They have impressed me in the snow and on wet roads. They have good lateral traction. I'll get another set after these wear out.

The only thing I can say about them that may be a problem for some,.... They are loud and heavy.
I agree, Mud grapplers are loud and heavy. And they do clean pretty well.

They do not impress me on wet or snowy roads though and my center lugs are siped.
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post #45 of 57 Old 04-28-2013, 05:50 PM
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On my jeep I had bfg all terrains that lasted 70k and still had 40% tread left, but last weekend we got 33x12.50 km2s. By the possibility of getting 100k out if tires from 07 is why I like bfg. The mud terrains are pretty quiet and a lot smoother on my jeep.
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