Mud Terrain Tires - Siped or Not - JeepForum.com
Search  
Sign Up   Today's Posts
User: Pass: Remember?
Advertise Here
Jeep Home Jeep Forum Jeep Classifieds Jeep Registry JeepSpace Jeep Reviews Jeep Gallery Jeep Clubs Jeep Groups Jeep Videos Jeep Events Jeep Articles
Go Back JeepForum.com > General Technical Discussions > Tires & Wheels > Mud Terrain Tires - Siped or Not

JEEP Gear Change Packages From ROCKRIDGE 4WD. We Are DIFFAlloy usa heavy duty ball joint kitsROCKRIDGE4WD Introduces a NEW Jeep Wrangler JK *led* tail

View Poll Results: WHat are your thoughts on Mud Tires
Siped only if from the Manufacturer 10 27.78%
I would have them siped myself 20 55.56%
Impartial either way 6 16.67%
Do not like or want siping 0 0%
Voters: 36. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
Unread 11-08-2006, 08:19 PM   #1
87Feep
Registered User
1987 YJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Ohio
Posts: 159
Mud Terrain Tires - Siped or Not

I see a lot of discussion revolving around siped tires so I figured I'd start a quick poll to see what the general thoughts are about siping and Mud Type tires....

87Feep is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 11-08-2006, 10:47 PM   #2
UCTJ
Registered User
1997 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Texas, Texas
Posts: 1,993
I would like to have my BFGs siped but Im too cheap and lazy to take it to Discount Tire which is 1 mile away...though I have wanted to get my own tire grooving iron and do it myself. I like em siped...
UCTJ is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 11-08-2006, 10:50 PM   #3
olds442
Registered User
1999 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Williamsburg,VA
Posts: 4,116
wouldnt care if they were or werent, im just too lazy to do it myself
__________________
Family Wheelin...
Dad- '08 JK Rubicon- Stock, BB and 33s coming
Sister- '07 FJ Cruiser- Rear locker, BFG A/Ts
VT
olds442 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 11-08-2006, 11:45 PM   #4
Jerry Bransford
Do it right or not at all
 
Jerry Bransford's Avatar
2004 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Escondido, California, California
Posts: 60,440
Cut sipes like would be done by Discount Tires is actually preferrable to molded sipes that serve for sipes in most "factory siped" tires. Molded sipes (more accurately called kerfs) are less costly, cut sipes are more labor intensive... but better for traction.
__________________
Getting Savvy...

Coolest offroad magazine ever! CRAWL Magazine

When you have a choice, buy American.

Jerry Bransford is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 11-08-2006, 11:53 PM   #5
Trouble Maker
Senior Member
 
Trouble Maker's Avatar
1993 ZJ 
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Lloydminster, SK Canada
Posts: 751
Before getting them siped check to see if it will void your tire warranty, at home grooving will for sure.
__________________
Russ
02 Dakota Quad Cab 4.7 5 spd

93 ZJ Stolen and wrecked Mar29/08
Trouble Maker is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 11-09-2006, 04:29 AM   #6
BlaineWasHere
BecauseRacecar
 
BlaineWasHere's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: NorCal
Posts: 13,324
I had a set of Kumho MT's that I siped and they where great in the winter. My firestones are currently NOT siped but I may do it if I don't like the traction in the white stuff.
__________________
2013 FR-S
BlaineWasHere is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 11-10-2006, 08:00 PM   #7
87Feep
Registered User
1987 YJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Ohio
Posts: 159
Curoius to see a few more votes. SO far nobody seems to be against sipes. Has anybody had problems with the sipes ripping or getting torn up when off roading?
87Feep is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 11-11-2006, 04:48 AM   #8
options
Registered User
1997 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Rochester, MI
Posts: 129
Getting my Goodyear MTR's done today at Discount Tire for $10 each. Ran them last winter new without sipes. With rain and snow on the way, any improved traction will be a good thing, especially for stopping! Gotta believe that a major tire chain like Discount wouldn't do it if it affected your warranty. I'll ask before they write it up and post a response later today.
__________________
'97 TJ Sport, 5 speed, 3" Pro Comp, 33" MTR's, A/R Baja's, ECGS 8.8, CenterForce, AGR Superbox 2, BDO Rocker Guards, Airaid air system, Dynomax exhaust, Cobra/Wilson, Bazooka Tube, etc...
options is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 11-11-2006, 08:22 AM   #9
options
Registered User
1997 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Rochester, MI
Posts: 129
O.K. Had the MTR's siped this morning, took about 45 minutes. Had them rotated as they now have 3000 miles on them. $40 total, no problem with the manufacturer's tire warranty per Discount Tire.
__________________
'97 TJ Sport, 5 speed, 3" Pro Comp, 33" MTR's, A/R Baja's, ECGS 8.8, CenterForce, AGR Superbox 2, BDO Rocker Guards, Airaid air system, Dynomax exhaust, Cobra/Wilson, Bazooka Tube, etc...
options is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 11-13-2006, 01:46 PM   #10
Whybu1
Lets go Penguins!!!!
 
Whybu1's Avatar
2001 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Camas, WA
Posts: 3,201
Took my siped MT/Rs on some of the nasty sharp AZ rocks last month. It did chunk them a bit mostly due to me spinning the wheels more than I should have. The rear ones that were siped look kind of rough, the front ones (not spied) didn't look as bad. Then again the rear was locked and spinning.

Just because someone will ask, I had to replace 2 tires and the locla place wouldn't do siping. Rotate them front to rear with no issues.
Whybu1 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 11-13-2006, 02:01 PM   #11
Jerry Bransford
Do it right or not at all
 
Jerry Bransford's Avatar
2004 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Escondido, California, California
Posts: 60,440
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whybu1
Took my siped MT/Rs on some of the nasty sharp AZ rocks last month. It did chunk them a bit mostly due to me spinning the wheels more than I should have. The rear ones that were siped look kind of rough, the front ones (not spied) didn't look as bad. Then again the rear was locked and spinning.
Please tell me you only allowed them to sipe the two inner-most tread blocks, and that the outer tread blocks were left unsiped.

For strength reasons, the outside tread blocks should always remain unsiped as that is where spinning of tires on rocks etc. can cause chunking. My MT/Rs are siped but only the middle two tread blocks are... and there has been zero chunking.
__________________
Getting Savvy...

Coolest offroad magazine ever! CRAWL Magazine

When you have a choice, buy American.

Jerry Bransford is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 11-13-2006, 02:09 PM   #12
I FLEX
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: BREMERTON, WA
Posts: 663
I live in Washington State where there is alot of rain. Im glad i got them siped. I ran them a week without and it was rough. I had to be extra cautious on turns and stops. I had the local tire shop do it for about $10 per tire and it was great. I also noticed alittle improvement on ice driving.

Its said to also help reduce tear wear by allowing the lugs to run cooler..

Check out the link, its info posted about Siping from Tire Store chain in the PNW.

http://www.lesschwab.com/siping.asp
__________________
- Micah
Muddy TJ
2001 SE 5spd | 33x12.5x15 Toyo MT's|
RE.BB with RE3.5 shocks | Anti-Rock
#13
My Jeep (they are some what updated)

Best Vendor, great prices!!!
I FLEX is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 11-15-2006, 10:50 AM   #13
Whybu1
Lets go Penguins!!!!
 
Whybu1's Avatar
2001 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Camas, WA
Posts: 3,201
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford
Please tell me you only allowed them to sipe the two inner-most tread blocks, and that the outer tread blocks were left unsiped.

For strength reasons, the outside tread blocks should always remain unsiped as that is where spinning of tires on rocks etc. can cause chunking. My MT/Rs are siped but only the middle two tread blocks are... and there has been zero chunking.

Yes only the inner lugs are siped. The rock here is a nasty quartz type rock. Actually able to get a nice cut off the pieces if you try. Trails run about 45 degree incline. Most damage was on the inner lugs but the outers took a little bit as well.
Whybu1 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 11-15-2006, 11:35 AM   #14
notch4u
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Rockland, New York
Posts: 363
huh i never seen this b4(noob to off roading in jeeps)

so how deep are the cuts, how often do you need to get it done?

most tire shops can do this?
__________________
95.5 YJ Rio Grande 2.5L.4" RE,1" BL, 33x9.5 AT's, Aussie Locker -Retired
88 Mustang Notch turbo 2.3 road race car- Street toy
02 Outback Wagon -Daily
00 Yamaha Kodiak on 27"s
notch4u is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 11-15-2006, 01:30 PM   #15
McLovin
Registered User
2000 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: playing in the sand, oregon
Posts: 3,218
Quote:
Originally Posted by notch4u
huh i never seen this b4(noob to off roading in jeeps)

so how deep are the cuts, how often do you need to get it done?

most tire shops can do this?
You only need to get it done once. The cuts pretty go as deep as the tread is tall. You just have to call around and ask if they do or not.
__________________
I have 4 new zone hydro shocks for sale...PM for a price.
McLovin is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the JeepForum.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid e-mail address for yourself.
Note: All free e-mails have been banned due to mis-use. (Yahoo, Gmail, Hotmail, etc.)
Don't have a non-free e-mail address? Click here for a solution: Manual Account Creation
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


Thread Tools


Suggested Threads





Jeep, Wrangler, Cherokee, Grand Cherokee, and other models are copyrighted and trademarked to Jeep/Chrysler Corporation. JeepForum.com is not in any way associated with Jeep or the Chrysler Corp.