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Unread 07-08-2013, 10:38 AM   #1
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Italian rules on tire sizes

We have here in Italy, a strange rule on tire sizes that can be fitted. When you register your vehicle for the first time, you could indicate in your application form, the additional sizes of tires (besides the stock size), that you wish to fit. For example, my the 1999 TJ 4.0 Sport has 215/75 R15, 225/75 R15 and 215/80 R15 - as approved by the Ministry of Transport. If I fit any other sized tires, it will be illegal. However, any additional tire size to be approved requires an application and about USD 1,200 in fees.

Do you in the US have similar rule like this?

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Unread 07-08-2013, 11:10 AM   #2
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Nope.
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Unread 07-12-2013, 08:00 PM   #3
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Many states have laws prohibiting tires more than two sizes larger than stock but these laws are very rarely enforced.
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Unread 07-12-2013, 09:52 PM   #4
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Some states have some restrictions, but nothing as bad as that. Most common thing you'll run into here is exceeding lawful height from the ground since tires count towards it. It's not enforced around here much but we can only be but so high off the ground based on GVWR, but pickups get more height than SUVs do. So I could legally go higher on a Comanche than I can on a Cherokee despite them being virtually identical.

Otherwise a lot of areas only care if your tires are uncovered, you don't have mud flaps, ect.
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Unread 07-14-2013, 12:59 AM   #5
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Most Northeastern USA states have rules about max tire size, but not nearly as restrictive as the OP describes in Italy.

I'm fairly sure the rest of the USA has no restrictions, or doesn't enforce them. In my area (Oregon and Washington) there is no tire size restrictions, but there is a bumper height restriction that limits how many inches above stock bumper height your bumper is allowed to be.

I can't remember how much higher than stock the bumper is allowed to be, but it's so much that I never worried about it with my lifted LJ. I've never known of the police to enforce that law anyway.

But when some ahole rearended me at a stop light, went under my Jeep, and broke my neck, the other person's insurance sent an inspector to inspect my Jeep to make sure it was a legal height.

My Jeep was a legal height. So their insurance paid me $75,000. If my Jeep had been illegally high, I might have got nothing.

It's the insurance people who enforce our tire and lift laws, but our laws are not very restrictive.

The exception is the Northeast USA where the laws are restrictive/oppressive and the state police and insurance inspectors both enforce oppressive laws.
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Unread 07-14-2013, 01:12 AM   #6
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European governments interfering with peoples' lives with to many laws and restrictive laws is why the USA exists. It's why our ancestors came here from all parts of Europe. Even those who came here for economic gain were coming for a place where less government interference made that possible.

The Eastern USA states were (and are) free-er than Europe, but not free enough. Freedom and economic reasons are why people headed West.

To this day the Western and Midwestern States have the most freedom, but the Democrats are reducing West coast freedoms as fast as they can. It's now illegal to wash your own car in the town next over. Why? The liberal environmentalists convinced Democrats to pass that law to keep soap out of sewers to protect rivers.

I think soon the West coast will be as restrictive as the Northeast. The rest of the USA still bas good freedoms though.
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Unread 07-14-2013, 01:19 AM   #7
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A lot of TJs came stock with 235/75R15 and 30 x 9.5 R15 tires.

Those are great sizes for on and off road use. The 30 x 9.5 R15 is especially good.

I think your government has mistakenly omitted these stock tire sizes. 30 x 9.5 R15 is the most common tire size for stock TJs I've seen.

If you can show them that many (probably most) TJs came stock with 30 x 9.5 R15, then maybe they'll let you use that size.

Here is a thread about 30 x 9.5 R15 tires. http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f15/l...zj-tj-1523888/
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In Sweden the government has to approve what you name your baby child.
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In Sweden the government has to approve what you name your baby child.
Are you serious?
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Are you serious?
I am serious.

Also, since the EU controls standards for everything sold in Europe from condoms to crackerjack, I doubt Italy has some special rule for tires.
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Unread 07-15-2013, 10:33 PM   #11
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I am serious.

Also, since the EU controls standards for everything sold in Europe from condoms to crackerjack, I doubt Italy has some special rule for tires.
So you're thinking the tire restriction is EU? Maybe. I don't know.

I do know we have some German members running 33s and 35s on TJs, and a Finnish member running oversize tires on an XJ.
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I'd like to know if Anith (the OP) read what I posted about many TJs came stock with 235/75R15 and many more came with 30 x 9.5 R15.
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Unread 07-17-2013, 08:54 AM   #13
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I'd like to know if Anith (the OP) read what I posted about many TJs came stock with 235/75R15 and many more came with 30 x 9.5 R15.
Hi Charley, yes, I did read and thanks! I will try to play with your suggestion.

Cheers!
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Hi Charley, yes, I did read and thanks! I will try to play with your suggestion.

Cheers!
Great. Also check out this thread when you have time:

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f15/l...zj-tj-1523888/
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In Sweden the government has to approve what you name your baby child.

Are you serious?
You don't need to go as far, here in Canada also !
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