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post #1306 of 1345 Old 05-01-2013, 09:24 PM
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Falkens? On a TJ? Did I miss something?


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falkens? On a tj? Did i miss something?
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I know this is an older thread, but still applicable...

Anyone experiencing out of round on new MTR-K's? I just mounted 5 new 35-12.5-17's on my Walker Evans wheels. After having a horrible time balancing them at the normal place I had them road force balanced and 3 of the 5 got kicked back for being out of round. With the rear on Jack stands and idling in gear there is approx 3/8" - 1/2" of vertical movement at the tread.

If you try hard enough you could balance a square tire, but it'll still ride like crap. Am I the only one experiencing this with the MTR-K?
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I had the same issue with 35-12.50-15's. Take them back for 5 round ones or if you bought online, Email and call goodyear. They will send you around to many shops until they replace them, But they will.
They are still under factory replacement until 17/32's of the new 19/32 IIRC, Either way, You have 2/32's until you own eggs. It happens, Just keep on them until you have a new, Round set of kevlars. Good luck

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I know this is an older thread, but still applicable...

Anyone experiencing out of round on new MTR-K's? I just mounted 5 new 35-12.5-17's on my Walker Evans wheels. After having a horrible time balancing them at the normal place I had them road force balanced and 3 of the 5 got kicked back for being out of round. With the rear on Jack stands and idling in gear there is approx 3/8" - 1/2" of vertical movement at the tread.

If you try hard enough you could balance a square tire, but it'll still ride like crap. Am I the only one experiencing this with the MTR-K?
Have heard many with that problem. Affected several different sizes as well. Just like KM2s have a rep of running short, these have a rep of being difficult/unable to balance.

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post #1311 of 1345 Old 03-31-2014, 01:05 PM
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I know this is an older thread, but still applicable...

Anyone experiencing out of round on new MTR-K's? I just mounted 5 new 35-12.5-17's on my Walker Evans wheels. After having a horrible time balancing them at the normal place I had them road force balanced and 3 of the 5 got kicked back for being out of round. With the rear on Jack stands and idling in gear there is approx 3/8" - 1/2" of vertical movement at the tread.

If you try hard enough you could balance a square tire, but it'll still ride like crap. Am I the only one experiencing this with the MTR-K?
They had real trouble with this a few years ago, but lately haven't heard many complaints. Wonder if those tires have been sitting in a warehouse for awhile. Personally have run 3 sets (33x12.5x15, 35x12.5x15 and 35x12.5x17) and never had a problem, although they were definitely not the easiest to balance. If I let any idiot try to balance them who knows what the results would have been, but if done the right way by someone who knows what they are doing we got them there.

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Yeah, I was starting to doubt myself. I tried Equal (horrible), then a static balance (better), then road forced (better still, but not right) by the guy the Hunter rep suggested. I was finally able to swap 37's with a JK (since my TJ has 5x5 pattern) and it was as smooth as glass.

Hoping they don't give me a bunch of crap since it's been 33 days (out of the 30 day window) and I bought them online and mounted them myself. Guess I'll find out Wednesday morning at the Corporate store appointment.
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Went to the Goodyear corporate store this morning. They pulled the beadlock card and tried to show me the .020 runout at the inner lip of my Walker Evans wheels and explain that was causing the 3/8" - 1/2" vertical movement at the tread, but after a bit of discussion they've agreed to replace all 5 at no cost, which IMO they should.

New ones should be here Friday.
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Went to the Goodyear corporate store this morning. They pulled the beadlock card and tried to show me the .020 runout at the inner lip of my Walker Evans wheels and explain that was causing the 3/8" - 1/2" vertical movement at the tread, but after a bit of discussion they've agreed to replace all 5 at no cost, which IMO they should. New ones should be here Friday.
When I originally had mine put on a couple years ago there was a very noticeable side to side wobble on a couple if the tires. The tech at Discount Tire brought me out and showed me the wobble while they spun them on the machine. They told me they would replace the tires but it could take a month or two to get new ones. I asked if I could test them them and they were and still are smooth at 75 mph.

I just don't think your going to find an oversized tire that doesn't have a noticeable amount of runout, the question is is it enough to cause an issue.
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I had a similar set up, Fake locks, They tried to pull the BS card for the ring. I told them do you want me to bring you mentally challenged tire tards a set of oem wheels to try to balance ****? When I started calling them out on a **** product they knew about, I got free replacements too.
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When I originally had mine put on a couple years ago there was a very noticeable side to side wobble on a couple if the tires. The tech at Discount Tire brought me out and showed me the wobble while they spun them on the machine. They told me they would replace the tires but it could take a month or two to get new ones. I asked if I could test them them and they were and still are smooth at 75 mph.

I just don't think your going to find an oversized tire that doesn't have a noticeable amount of runout, the question is is it enough to cause an issue.
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When I originally had mine put on a couple years ago there was a very noticeable side to side wobble on a couple if the tires. The tech at Discount Tire brought me out and showed me the wobble while they spun them on the machine. They told me they would replace the tires but it could take a month or two to get new ones. I asked if I could test them them and they were and still are smooth at 75 mph.

I just don't think your going to find an oversized tire that doesn't have a noticeable amount of runout, the question is is it enough to cause an issue.

Goodyear is the only company off hand I can think of with new **** tires. Nitto, M/T, Maxxis, Toyo etc all run true and balance perfect. Hell, My BFG krawlers that had rounded lugs and chunks missing balanced better each time than my kevlars ever did.

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So, I'm about a week from ordering a set of these. Is the consensus that the 35" x R15s are still running egg (or worse, pear) shaped?
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So, I'm about a week from ordering a set of these. Is the consensus that the 35" x R15s are still running egg (or worse, pear) shaped?

The bandwagon will say they are fine, Even when they are riding on un balanceable tires because they are kevlars. I wasted time with them and was happy for what they were, But there is better out there.
With that said, Buy at your own risk and hope you get round ones and if not be ready to deal with goodyear and all their excuses and they have a truck load of them! Plus if you do get crap ones, You might be stuck with them until a backorder is filled if they are still pulling that ****.
Off road they get the job done, On road people justify their **** ride and purchase and I was one of them, Until I got rid of them and back to round tires.

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The bandwagon will say they are fine, Even when they are riding on un balanceable tires because they are kevlars. I wasted time with them and was happy for what they were, But there is better out there.
With that said, Buy at your own risk and hope you get round ones and if not be ready to deal with goodyear and all their excuses and they have a truck load of them! Plus if you do get crap ones, You might be stuck with them until a backorder is filled if they are still pulling that ****.
Off road they get the job done, On road people justify their **** ride and purchase and I was one of them, Until I got rid of them and back to round tires.
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