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Unread 03-19-2009, 08:49 PM   #46
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I agree, they're not. They have a thin profile, but it will probably grab somewhat.

I tend to believe they are there more to protect the sidewall than to provide any major traction.
I was thinking they are there mostly for looks and mabe a little bit of extra sidewall protection
what are they a 1/16 more rubber in those areas

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Unread 03-22-2009, 10:54 AM   #47
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So how many people are running this tire offroad ?

Lookingbfor more info how they work in a mud/rock mix
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Unread 03-30-2009, 01:55 PM   #48
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So how many people are running this tire offroad ?

Lookingbfor more info how they work in a mud/rock mix
Give me a couple of weeks and I'll post a report; ordered a set today. 285/75-16.
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Unread 03-30-2009, 02:22 PM   #49
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Does this mean they stopped making the traditional MTR's?
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Unread 03-30-2009, 02:31 PM   #50
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I was thinking they are there mostly for looks and mabe a little bit of extra sidewall protection
what are they a 1/16 more rubber in those areas
I've come to the conclusion that fancy sidewall designs are for lifted pickup trucks with shiny wheels.
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Unread 03-30-2009, 03:44 PM   #51
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I've come to the conclusion that fancy sidewall designs are for lifted pickup trucks with shiny wheels.
why do you say that?
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Unread 03-30-2009, 03:46 PM   #52
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I'm waiting until they are available in men's sizes.
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Unread 03-30-2009, 04:50 PM   #53
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white letters inside on new MTR

If you're not a fan of white letters, you'd have to put the all-terrain strip on the outside, right?
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If you're not a fan of white letters, you'd have to put the all-terrain strip on the outside, right?
No, it's asym and the knobbier tread is designed to be outside. If you don't want white letters, buy a different size. I'm considering the 35x12.5/15 when they are available, which are black.
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Unread 03-30-2009, 06:02 PM   #55
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Also, because they are directional so one direction will provide more bite than the other.
As already explained above, the new MT/R tires are not directional.
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Unread 03-30-2009, 06:05 PM   #56
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Does this mean they stopped making the traditional MTR's?
There are no more (or at least barely any) of the older style MT/Rs left, Goodyear stopped making them.
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Unread 03-30-2009, 07:35 PM   #57
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MTR Kevlar white letters

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No, it's asym and the knobbier tread is designed to be outside. If you don't want white letters, buy a different size. I'm considering the 35x12.5/15 when they are available, which are black.
Don, Thanks for your reply. You are right. Your reply helped make my decison.

Some are discussing here the issue of unidirectional, which is different than being asymetrical. The new tire is not unidirectional, but it is asymetrical, so the only way to hide the white letters is to flip the tires to put the all-terrain strip to the outside, which is not the design. In fact the tires have molded instructions on the sidewall that the all-terrain strip must be mounted to the inside and the mud-terrain strip to the outside.

Unfortunately I can't wait for Goodyear to come to their senses (Moab Easter Safari next week), so I'm going with the last stock of the original MTRs this time. They'll be ancient history next time I buy, so I'll be looking for 5 of something else next time ... or maybe by then they will have new blackwall MTRs with Kevlar.

Thanks, again.
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Don, Thanks for your reply. You are right. Your reply helped make my decison.

Some are discussing here the issue of unidirectional, which is different than being asymetrical. The new tire is not unidirectional, but it is asymetrical, so the only way to hide the white letters is to flip the tires to put the all-terrain strip to the outside, which is not the design. In fact the tires have molded instructions on the sidewall that the all-terrain strip must be mounted to the inside and the mud-terrain strip to the outside.

Unfortunately I can't wait for Goodyear to come to their senses (Moab Easter Safari next week), so I'm going with the last stock of the original MTRs this time. They'll be ancient history next time I buy, so I'll be looking for 5 of something else next time ... or maybe by then they will have new blackwall MTRs with Kevlar.

Thanks, again.
You could just dye the white lettering black, and get the new (and improved) tread design.
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Unread 03-30-2009, 09:16 PM   #59
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As already explained above, the new MT/R tires are not directional.
The old MT/R side biters are symmetrical in regards to tire direction. The side biters on the new tire look like they will be more effective turning one direction more than the other. All in all they don't look like they will be very effective for traction IMO.
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The side biters on the new tire look like they will be more effective turning one direction more than the other. All in all they don't look like they will be very effective for traction IMO.
I was thinking the same thing, but after looking at this pic...



I can see how the long edges grab, rather than just the front edges of the side biters.
Looks promising.
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