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post #106 of 121 Old 12-09-2013, 07:29 PM
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So according to my spring scale (bathroom scale):

Moab 16 x 8 is 25 lbs. Hubcentric, Cast.

Icon 16 x 7 is 21 lbs. Hubcentric, Cast.

Jeep Alcoa 15 x 8 is 20.5 lbs. NON hubcentric, Forged.

American Racing Ansen Sprint 15 x 8 is 19.5 lbs. NON Hubcentric, Cast

Ecco 15 x 7 is 18 lbs. Hubcentric, Cast.

I estimate my scale is within a half pound of accurate.

Forged wheels are stronger than cast, but are NON Hubcentric. Forged weighs about 1 lbs more than cast of same size and hubcentricity.

Hubcentric wheels are stronger than NON Hubcentric. Hubcentric weigh more than NON Hubcentric. Not sure how much more. I estimate 1 lb more.


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post #107 of 121 Old 12-09-2013, 07:47 PM
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Does anyone have a weight for Canyon or Ravine?

Ed, how about weighing one of yours?

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post #108 of 121 Old 12-09-2013, 08:13 PM
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I just weighed an Ecco wheel.

Reads 18 lbs on my bathroom scale.

I weighed myself, then I weighed myself holding the wheel. Then I subtracted. That is as accurate a method as possible with a bathroom (spring) scale.

I estimate true weight is somewhere between 17.5 & 18.5.
Score! That is 9lbs per rim gone.
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Actually, I suspect my bathroom scale reads around 2 to 2.5 lbs heavier than reality.

I'm going to check by weighing Ecco on an accurate shipping scale at UPS and then comparing to what my batbroom scale says.

I'll let you know soon.

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Does anyone have a weight for Canyon or Ravine?

Ed, how about weighing one of yours?
Charley,

As I said several times in this thread, I weighed the Ravine with bathroom scales at 17 lbs and the Silverstar at 20.5 lbs.
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post #111 of 121 Old 12-10-2013, 03:20 PM
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I've been keeping my wheel info post (quoted in the second post of this thread) up to date to the best of my ability. Where people disagree on weight (likely due to imperfect scales and/or methods), I've done my best.

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There is no way a Ravine weighs less than an Ecco.

One or more persons' scales are wrong.

I don't think it's possible to get an accurate reading from a bathroom scale. Sorry.

I think bathroom scales are plus or minus 2.5 lbs.

It's frustrating. I think only a shippjng scale (like at UPS) can be accurate enough.

Since most of us used bathroom scales, I conclude we still don't know what these wheels weigh.

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I'm so frustrated that I'm going to buy myself a shipping scale for Christmas and then weigh the wheels again and then post accurate info.

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Since most of us used bathroom scales, I conclude we still don't know what these wheels weigh.
Since the weights aren't THAT much different, I'm just looking at it as light, medium, and heavy (e.g. Ecco, Icon, Moab). Since I currently have Laces and plan on getting Turbines, this is all unimportant info for me anyhow since we don't know the weights of either of those wheels that interest me (KJ wheels still interest me I guess, and I consider them "heavy").

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There is no way a Ravine weighs less than an Ecco.

One or more persons' scales are wrong.

I don't think it's possible to get an accurate reading from a bathroom scale. Sorry.

I think bathroom scales are plus or minus 2.5 lbs.

It's frustrating. I think only a shippjng scale (like at UPS) can be accurate enough.

Since most of us used bathroom scales, I conclude we still don't know what these wheels weigh.
I can see a Ravine weighing less than an Ecco. The spokes are wide, but thin, while the Ecco's are much beefier, and the Ecco's center section is thicker, while the 1" additional width of the Ravine doesn't add much weight at all, nowhere like increasing the diameter of the wheel 1". I have an Amer Racing Baja 15x8 which is listed as 20.5 lbs and if you lift it and then lift a 15x8 Ravine there is a clear difference - the Ravine feels perceptively lighter.

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I'm so frustrated that I'm going to buy myself a shipping scale for Christmas and then weigh the wheels again and then post accurate info.
No need Charley - you said above that you weighed a Moab at 25 lbs - that is exactly right according to Summit Racing who is selling an exact copy made by the same mfr who made the Moabs.
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No need Charley - you said above that you weighed a Moab at 25 lbs - that is exactly right according to Summit Racing who is selling an exact copy made by the same mfr who made the Moabs.
I weighed it at 25.5 and then subtracted 0.5 because at that time I thought my scale was 0.5 off.

I don't know what to think.

I just want an accurate scale.

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I borrowed a shipping scale today. It weighs to a tenth of a pound. So plenty accurate.

16 x 7 Icon weighs 21.6 lbs

15 x 7 Ecco weighs 18.6 lbs

15 x 8 Jeep Alcoa weighs 18.6 lbs. Wow. No wonder they're the best. Very light and stronger than steel.

I'd love to weigh one of the 16 x 7 Ford Ranger Alcoa wheels. I think they'd fit a Jeep. Maybe fit as is, or maybe have to have machine shop drill center hole slightly larger. Guys put Ranger/Explorer wheels on 5 on 4.5 Jeeps. So can be done.

BTW - This means my bathroom scale is surprisingly accurate when using method of weighing myself holding wheel.

P.S. - I know it's weird that each wheel's weight ends in .6 but that what happened.

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post #119 of 121 Old 12-18-2013, 09:11 PM
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I know Ed weighed a Ravine with his bathroom scale, but I wish I had a Ravine or Canyon to weigh on a shipping scale.

Does anyone in NW Oregon or SW Washington have one I could weigh on a postal scale?

If you have the wheel, I have the postal scale.

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post #120 of 121 Old 12-18-2013, 09:44 PM
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I know Ed is going to ask if I measured BS of a 15 x 8 Jeep Alcoa wheel.

Yes I did, but I'm not sure if I'm supposed to measure from wheel mounting surface to inner edge of bead mount lip, or outer edge of bead mount lip.

So I measured both ways.

To inner edge of bead mounting lip it's 5.25".

To outer edge of bead mounting lip it's 5.5"

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