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Unread 08-15-2013, 01:21 PM   #1
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Factory alum rim weights

Hi I've searched around on here and didnt really find what I want. I'm looking for the weight in lbs of stock rims that came with 1997-2006 wranglers. I like the look of alot of the alum ones and they are far cheaper than aftermarket.

I'm not really worried about back spacing because they are all the same for the most part. I have steelies and they are heavy. I like basically All the alum rims that were optioned, the grizzly,ravine ect.

I was wondering if anyone had the weights of them? So that I could make the best possible choice for an upgrade. Thanks any help is appreciated !

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Unread 08-15-2013, 05:33 PM   #2
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I've always been curious about this as well.

Here is a post I made once upon a time that might come in handy to someone during the course of this thread. I'd love to have some weights to add to all this other info.
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Jeep alloy 5x4.5 pattern wheels.
  • 5 Slot 15x6 unknown BS (probably 4.25)
  • Turbine 15x7 5.25 BS
  • Lace 15x7 5.25 BS
  • 5 Star 15x7 5.25 BS
  • 10-hole 15x7 5.25 BS
  • Teardrop 15x7 5.25 BS
  • Ecco 15x7 5.25 BS ~19 lbs
  • Grizzly 15x7 5.25 BS ~19 lbs
  • Canyon 15x8 5.5 BS ~20 lbs
  • Ravine 15x8 5.5 BS ~17-18 lbs
  • Gambler 15x8? 5.5 BS
  • TJ Moab 16x8 5 BS ~25.5 lbs
  • Icon 16x7 5.25 BS ~21 lbs
  • ZJ Timberline (aka Snowflake) 16x? 5.25 BS
  • TSI 16x7? 5.25 BS
  • Silver star (ZJ 5.9) 16x7 5.25 BS ~20-21 lbs
  • No info on early ZJ 5 slanted spoke wheels.
  • Unknown name KJ wheel 16x7 unknown BS (prolly 5.5) ~24 lbs
  • Unknown name KJ wheel 16x7 unknown BS (prolly 5.5) ~24 lbs
  • Unknown name KJ wheel 16x7 unknown BS (prolly 5.5) ~24 lbs
  • Unknown name KJ wheel 17x7.5 unknown BS (prolly 5.5)
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I had an 06 Wrangler Rubicon with 16 x 8 stock aluminum wheels. They weighed 25.5 lbs. I weighed them.

I bought American Racing Ansen Sprint wheels that were 15 x 8 aluminum. They were not hubcentric. They weighed 18.5 lbs. I weighed them.

So I think it's likely that stock 15 x 8 aluminum wheels (Canyons, Ravines, etc) would weigh around to 19 to 20 lbs since they are hubcentric.
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I had an 06 Wrangler Rubicon with 16 x 8 stock aluminum wheels. They weighed 25.5 lbs. I weighed them.

I bought American Racing Ansen Sprint wheels that were 15 x 8 aluminum. They were not hubcentric. They weighed 18.5 lbs. I weighed them.

So I think it's likely that stock 15 x 8 aluminum wheels (Canyons, Ravines, etc) would weigh around to 19 to 20 lbs since they are hubcentric.
Which wheels were those, Charley? Moabs?
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I weighed a wheel from a 2005 Rubicon and it was over 30 lbs. Those wheels are forged aluminum, not cast, and were VERY heavy. Combined with the LT "E" tires that came on them from the factory, the combo was super heavy for such a small vehicle and that's why Jeep got so many complaints and ditched them when the 2007 JK Rubicon came out.
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Does anyone else have any I do on these rims above? I'd prefer the 15in rims tho
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Which wheels were those, Charley? Moabs?
Moabs. Yes
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I weighed a wheel from a 2005 Rubicon and it was over 30 lbs. Those wheels are forged aluminum, not cast, and were VERY heavy. Combined with the LT "E" tires that came on them from the factory, the combo was super heavy for such a small vehicle and that's why Jeep got so many complaints and ditched them when the 2007 JK Rubicon came out.
IME in size 15x 8 I have found that forged aluminum wheels are about 3 lbs heavier than cast.

I own a set of each of those and have weighed them.

Forged wheels are heavier than cast because forged wheels are denser (and stronger) than cast. However, forged aluminum is still lighter and stronger than mild steel, and way stronger than cast aluminum.

The weight figures I gave in earlier post are for cast aluminum wheels. For forged, add about 3 lbs for a 15x8 wheel, or 4.5 to 5 lbs for 16x8 wheel.
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Does anyone else have any I do on these rims above? I'd prefer the 15in rims tho
Read what I said in earlier post about 15 x 8 (cast) aluminum wheels.

That's probably the best info you can get, other than getting someone to weigh a stock cast 15x8 for you.

If you want stock 15 x 8 forged, I have a brand new set of Jeep Alcoa forged aluminum wheels new in the box. The weigh 20 lbs each. I bought them from a Jeep dealership on close out sale (still spendy).

These are the wheels that came on 2004 Rocky Mountain Special Edition Wranglers. I might be willing to sell, but not cheap. They are forged Alcoa (the best wheels) made for Jeep and they are rare and new in the box(es).

If you want cheap, look for used Ravine, Canyon, Gambler, or other stock cast aluminum Wrangler wheels. That's if you want sto k cast 15x8 (as opposed to stock cast 15x7).
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15" ecco weigh 19lbs
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15" ecco weigh 19lbs
I'm surprised Eccos aren't lighter than that. Eccos are 15x7 cast.

I own a set of Eccos, but have not weighed one (yet). Maybe I should weigh one.

My 15x8 forged Jeep Alcoa weigh 20 or 20.5 lbs.

Possibly our scales differ?

To be as accurate as possible (with my scale), I weighed myself holding the wheel, then weighed myself without wheel. Then subtracted.

I don't know how accurate my scale (or your scale) is, but at least I used correct procedure.
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Ya I really like the looks of the ravine canyon ecco and grizzly. So that's what I was lookin at. My stock steel wheels with 31x10.50 km2s were waaayyyy heavier than some Mickey tompsons with 33x12.50 destination mts. I know the 33s prolly weigh close to the same or less than my 31s but its allllot more tire still and if those rims made that big of a difference!!

With the 33s on my jeep wasnt any slower in acceleration than if it had the 31s. And it's all cuz of that insprung weight. So if I can shave 5 -10 off each rim than awesome
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Ok I did some searching and this is what I found. How accurate idk but its what people said they weighed them at.

I have seen that the steelies are around 26-27lbs the 15x7 grizzlies are just under 20lbs and the ravine are 15x8 ravines are around 17lbs I would like to weigh them myself so I might go to some junk yards and bring a scale ha
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Ya I really like the looks of the ravine canyon ecco and grizzly. So that's what I was lookin at. My stock steel wheels with 31x10.50 km2s were waaayyyy heavier than some Mickey tompsons with 33x12.50 destination mts. I know the 33s prolly weigh close to the same or less than my 31s but its allllot more tire still and if those rims made that big of a difference!!

With the 33s on my jeep wasnt any slower in acceleration than if it had the 31s. And it's all cuz of that insprung weight. So if I can shave 5 -10 off each rim than awesome
Agreed, except it's rotating mass that's the issue for accereration, braking, and gas mileage.

Increased unsprung weight makes suspension not work as good. Rougher ride, less traction when going fast off road, etc.

A heavy tire/wheel combo gives problems in both areas (rotating mass and unsprung weight).
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Unread 08-17-2013, 02:04 PM   #15
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Yes but less unsprung is part of the weight equation because most of your rotating mass is unsprung except for half of your driveshafts depending on who ya talk to. But either way haha
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