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Unread 09-12-2013, 10:58 AM   #1
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Cooper Discoverer AT3 - OWL or Black pics

Hi guys,

I'm planning on getting a set of these installed tomorrow. After the awful Courser MT's, I think an AT is best suited for me. I only go wheeling about 6-10 times a year and I can't justify having a lousy ride for the other 90% of my driving.


They seem to only come in OWL. To me they look pretty symmetrical so I think its ok to install the white letters facing in. Can anyone confirm ?

Anyone have some pics mounted on your rig either way for comparison purposes, I'm still undecided.

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Unread 09-12-2013, 11:03 AM   #2
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I'll get you some pics of my 265/70s on the 4Runner this afternoon. I think with this tire, black sidewall looks a lot better. I don't like serrated letters.
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Unread 09-12-2013, 11:16 AM   #3
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I'll get you some pics of my 265/70s on the 4Runner this afternoon. I think with this tire, black sidewall looks a lot better. I don't like serrated letters.
Great Thanks!

But still wondering, since my size only comes in OWL, is it ok to just have them mounted facing in ?

Looking forward to the pics.

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Unread 09-12-2013, 02:29 PM   #4
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Mounted my white letters in. Black wall looks pretty sharp on this tire. I'd like to have had a little more sidewall tread, but I guess you can't have everything.
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Unread 09-12-2013, 02:32 PM   #5
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Mounted my white letters in. Black wall looks pretty sharp on this tire. I'd like to have had a little more sidewall tread, but I guess you can't have everything.

Excellent, thanks. I did the black.

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Just curious... how much weight did they have to put on yours to balance them? That's my only real complaint with them so far...they seem to be hard to balance. I've read a lot of threads where other people had trouble balancing them also.
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Unread 09-13-2013, 07:28 AM   #7
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I get them mounted today, so I'll find out.

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Unread 09-15-2013, 10:17 PM   #8
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I don't mean to jack the thread, but what Load Range did you get them in? I plan on getting some AT/3's for my 2007 WK, I might tow an aluminum bass boat a few times a year, that's about it for any extra weight added... Do you think I'll be fine with the SL rating?
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Unread 09-16-2013, 06:38 AM   #9
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On a Jeep, you'll surpass the capacity of your axles and suspension before you surpass the capacity of a "P" rated tire. So I'd go with "P" to save the gas and cost.
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Just curious... how much weight did they have to put on yours to balance them? That's my only real complaint with them so far...they seem to be hard to balance. I've read a lot of threads where other people had trouble balancing them also.
Each tire has a 2 oz weight.

I won't give a "review" after only a few hundred miles. But what a difference from my MT's. These are so smooth and quiet and give a great ride. I was wavering a little bit, but I'm really glad I went with an AT.

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Unread 09-17-2013, 06:07 AM   #11
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Each tire has a 2 oz weight.

I won't give a "review" after only a few hundred miles. But what a difference from my MT's. These are so smooth and quiet and give a great ride. I was wavering a little bit, but I'm really glad I went with an AT.

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Agree 100%. I went from a MT to these ATs on my 4Runner pictured above and it's night and day. Quiet...more quiet than I expected actually. Smooth now that the shop took a second crack at balancing them. Gas mileage has already rebounded. I'm just very happy. I think I'll stick with ATs forever.

Can't wait to see how these do in the rain/snow/ice of winter.
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As far as balancing goes, here is an email I got from Cooper. I did not see any dots on my tires at all, though I have seen them on other brands.



"You may see a red dot on some tires manufactured. The red dots are located at the 'high point' for radial run out.

You may also notice a yellow dot. Yellow dots on tires can be used by dealers to help match-mount tires to rims. The yellow dot should be aligned with the valve stem on both steel and aluminum wheels since this is the wheel's heavy balance point. This helps to minimize the amount of weight needed to balance a tire and wheel assembly. Although this marking is used to initially line up the valve stem to start the match mounting procedure, the yellow dot does not necessarily end up matched after the weights are added, it is a 'starting point' only.


Please note that on wheels that have TPMS sensors on the valve stems it might be a good idea to spot the yellow high point dot 180° from the valve stem for the lowest balancing weight.



Certain conditions, like a tire being out of round, are covered during the first 2/32nds of tread wear. If a tire is manufactured ‘out of round’ it is an adjustable condition and is covered under warranty. If you feel that you have an out of round tire, please return to your dealer to have them replace the tire under warranty."
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As far as balancing goes, here is an email I got from Cooper. I did not see any dots on my tires at all, though I have seen them on other brands.



"You may see a red dot on some tires manufactured. The red dots are located at the 'high point' for radial run out.

You may also notice a yellow dot. Yellow dots on tires can be used by dealers to help match-mount tires to rims. The yellow dot should be aligned with the valve stem on both steel and aluminum wheels since this is the wheel's heavy balance point. This helps to minimize the amount of weight needed to balance a tire and wheel assembly. Although this marking is used to initially line up the valve stem to start the match mounting procedure, the yellow dot does not necessarily end up matched after the weights are added, it is a 'starting point' only.


Please note that on wheels that have TPMS sensors on the valve stems it might be a good idea to spot the yellow high point dot 180° from the valve stem for the lowest balancing weight.



Certain conditions, like a tire being out of round, are covered during the first 2/32nds of tread wear. If a tire is manufactured ‘out of round’ it is an adjustable condition and is covered under warranty. If you feel that you have an out of round tire, please return to your dealer to have them replace the tire under warranty."

Interesting, I didn't really notice any dots but I wasn't looking for them. I will take a look.
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Unread 09-25-2013, 03:05 PM   #14
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Late to the party but I'm disappointed no one posted a pic of the AT3 with OWL for you to compare to BW.

I know the OP trigger's been pulled so for the others who may ask the question later..

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Unread 09-29-2013, 02:44 PM   #15
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I think with this tire, black sidewall looks a lot better. I don't like serrated letters.
Agreed. I have white letters out, but not by my choosing. The tire store chose for me without asking me.

Black letters out looks better with this tire, IMO.

But it's a personal preference for each person.
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