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post #1 of 37 Old 12-04-2007, 02:21 PM Thread Starter
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BFG AT's and snow

Are BFG AT's a really good snow/ice tire? I'm wondering if I should keep my studded tire set or sell them and just run the BFGs.


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post #2 of 37 Old 12-04-2007, 02:33 PM
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we just had our first winter storm the other day, and there was about an inch of ice on the road covered with an couple inches of snow, first time ive had my bfg a/t's in the mess. they did pretty good imo. i only HAD to put it in 4 wheel drive once on the road, but that was a pretty steep hill with a stop sign in the middle.

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Chance_p... there are hills in Iowa?!?!
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post #4 of 37 Old 12-04-2007, 02:45 PM
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I used to run BFG AT's through the winter without any problems.

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What kind of tires do you normally run? My opinion is that deep tread makes a tire good in the snow, so I don't necessarily think one tire is so much better than another in the snow. If you're running something bald, just get something with tread.

I run BFG Long Trails and they're great in the snow, so if they are then most tires will be.
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Chance_p... there are hills in Iowa?!?!

My hometown is Dubuque, IA and we have very steep hills there. Lots of Bluffs, etc overlooking the river valley.

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What kind of tires do you normally run? My opinion is that deep tread makes a tire good in the snow, so I don't necessarily think one tire is so much better than another in the snow. If you're running something bald, just get something with tread.

I run BFG Long Trails and they're great in the snow, so if they are then most tires will be.
It depends. Siping does make a difference.


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I used to run BFG AT's in the winter time on my 83 Chevy pickup and they were fine.

Bald=bad
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While maybe not as good as a studded tire, we just got dumped on and my new this past summer BFG ATs are GREAT. Likely because they've only got 2 thousand miles on them, but my jeep truly feels like its point and shoot in the snow (in 4x4 Full Time). There are a bunch of threads about ppl complaining they're terrible in the snow, but all I'm saying is they're treating me very well.

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No problems in the snow with my BFG A/Ts

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It depends. Siping does make a difference.
Well, yeah, I'm talking about the AT tires that are widely available at tire stores.
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post #12 of 37 Old 12-04-2007, 03:33 PM
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In my experience BFG ATs were good in the snow. MTs were better as they tended to clear out a little more easily than the ATs.

That said, neither were particularly effective on sheet ice. If there was some snow on top to provide a little traction, it shouldn't be a problem, but if it's ice and ONLY ice, you might have issues. (I did)

For ice you really can't beat studded tires.

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Are BFG AT's a really good snow/ice tire? I'm wondering if I should keep my studded tire set or sell them and just run the BFGs.
If you have good studded, siped tires, do NOT change them for the BFG ATs!! ATs are pure crap compared to real winter tires on normal icy/snowy road condiotions. On deep snow ATs work much better though.

I've had nothing but bad experience on driving with BFG ATs on ice/snow- covered roads. Hard rubvber compound, not enough sipes, etc.. -> total lack of grip. I know a lot of guys here praise the BFG ATs for being great for snow and decent on ice, but I simply cannot agree on that. Then agin, here in Finland we must use winter tires (either studded or studdless) during winter months, so it is kinda obvious when you are used to having best possible grip on snowy/icy roads, anything less than that is just crap.


At least for me, running BFG ATs as road tires during winter would be about as stupid idea as if I'd be wheeling muddy trails on street tires.. I've got Nokian Hakkapeliitta LTs (studded), size 235/85 R16 for winter. I ran Cooper Discoverer M+S tires last winter, pretty good also. Depending on weather, when I go wheeling in winter I either use my street tires, or swap my Maxxis Creepy Crawlers under the XJ..

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We had one good snow last winter and ended up getting a foot... maybe two? When it was warmer my AT's got me around in 2wd without any problem, when it started getting closer to 0 and the snow got really hard and icy they were terrible though. This winter I have 4wd, hopefully its better!

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