Quantcast beads to balance tires - Page 4 - JeepForum.com
Search  
Sign Up   Today's Posts
User: Pass: Remember?
Advertise Here
Jeep Home Jeep Forum Jeep Classifieds Jeep Registry JeepSpace Jeep Reviews Jeep Gallery Jeep Clubs Jeep Groups Jeep Videos Jeep Events Jeep Articles

Go Back JeepForum.com > General Technical Discussions > Tires & Wheels > beads to balance tires

DISCOUNT - Chromoly Front Axle Shaft Kits, 87-95 YJ's, 97-GR8TOPS Introduces the Exogate HD Tire CarrierTruck-Lite's New LED Headlamp Series

Reply
Old 09-25-2008, 01:25 PM   #46
Terrain Twister
Senior Member
 
Terrain Twister's Avatar
2004 LJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 541
I'm assuming everyone that is doing this has eliminated any other balancing weights on their wheels?

__________________
'04 Unlimited, Auto, I6
35x12.50R15 DC Mud Country's, Rock Krawler 4.0" X Factor Plus Short Arm System, OME shocks, Warn M8000, 4.88's and Home Brew Bumpers/Tire Carrier!
Tube Fenders being Built!
Terrain Twister is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2008, 08:10 PM   #47
ep191
Registered User
1998 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 1,722
i dont think that would happen because in theory when you are driving the bbs quickly move to the spot they are supposed to go and centrifigual force keeps them in one spot. The tire is rotating so fast i would find it hard to believe that the bbs could move at all once the tire starts moving.
ep191 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2008, 08:12 PM   #48
ep191
Registered User
1998 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 1,722
^meant to put this quote in that post
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdragger View Post
What about the steel BB's? Don't they bead blast the tire and the wheel, effectively wearing the tire from the inside out? The Dynabeads must have a finite life. Let us know how long these last. What about aluminum wheels and bb's or beads?
ep191 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2008, 08:21 PM   #49
Lager
Registered User
2005 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Ellicott City Maryland
Posts: 102
Quote:
Originally Posted by Terrain Twister View Post
I'm assuming everyone that is doing this has eliminated any other balancing weights on their wheels?

Your correct, no other balancing is required. The beads work really well and I'm honestly suprised how well they work.
Lager is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2008, 04:58 PM   #50
USMC_XJ
Web Wheeler
 
USMC_XJ's Avatar
1994 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Jacksonville, NC
Posts: 1,345
BTT

how would airsoft BB's work if you tried to air down? wouldnt they get sucked and block the valve? just asking because looking to get sum 33 Trxus and heard they suck for balancing, so i thought id give the air soft bbs a try.
__________________
1994 Cherokee Sport - 4.0 HO - AW4 - 4WD

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob99
The next time you want to tell a story but not get people's opinions, rather than post it on an internet forum, open up Microsoft Word, type your story there, then click on the little X in the top right corner and then hit yourself in the head with a sledge hammer.
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigsquat
If he finds the yj section im putting round headlights on mine.
USMC_XJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2008, 07:44 PM   #51
Lager
Registered User
2005 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Ellicott City Maryland
Posts: 102
I've never had any problems airing down and getting the bb's stuck.

The bb's I use came from Innovative Balancing and they also sell you special air vavles to keep the bb's in the tire. If your using different bb's then me, then maybe you could just get the air vavles from Innovative Balancing.


Lager is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2008, 08:35 AM   #52
NJHCx4xLIFE
Registered User
2004 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: new jersey
Posts: 426
Quote:
Originally Posted by soldierp89 View Post
BTT

how would airsoft BB's work if you tried to air down? wouldnt they get sucked and block the valve? just asking because looking to get sum 33 Trxus and heard they suck for balancing, so i thought id give the air soft bbs a try.
Air down with the valve stem at the top of the wheel... all the bbs will be sitting at the bottom of the tire.
NJHCx4xLIFE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2008, 11:48 AM   #53
06_LJCON
Registered User
2006 LJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Oregon City, OR
Posts: 242
Any good tire shop should be able to balance any tire. Yes some are harder to balance then others and take more weight but I have yet to find a tire that I cant balance they might take me a few extra minutes but its worth it. If anyone has a radial tire that want more then 10oz of lead then they shouldn't be putting that tire on a daily drivin vehicle!!! I could totally see using that much or more for a bias ply but not a radial.
__________________
(SOLD) 1991 wrangler 2.5L 5-Speed White, 2" BL, Warn rear bumper, warn winch, warn rock sliders.

(SOLD) 1987 wrangler 2.5L 5-speed BLACK!
S.O.A. with 4" springs and a 2" body lift. Lincon locked front. 33" TSL's NEED bigger tires!!

(WRECKED) 2002 Apex Wrangler 4.0L 5-Speed Silver
2.5" skyjacker single flex, skyjacker shicks, Rock Krawler adjustable lower control arms f/r, 1.25" JKS body lift, 1" JKS motor mount lift, JKS Quicker Disconnects, Warn engine/transmission skid plate, Rock Crusher Front diff cover, Poison spyder rocker knockers, 1.25 wheel spacers, 4.10 gears f/r, Detroit Trutrack rear, aussie automatic locker front

(CURRENT) 2006 Wrangler Rubicon Unlimited LJ 4.0L 6-speep, Silver, 3.5" Rubicon express lift with Rubicon express disconnects. Hella 500 lights, HID Bi-xenon headlights, Rock-It intake, Red top Optima, Factory MOPAR rocker knockers, TNTCustoms Front full tube fenders, 35x12.5R15 BFG KM2, Black steel wheels.
06_LJCON is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2008, 11:54 AM   #54
06_LJCON
Registered User
2006 LJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Oregon City, OR
Posts: 242
OH also DO NOT put anything inside the tire if you have TPMS (tire pressure monitering systems)!!!! BB's will damage them eventually.
__________________
(SOLD) 1991 wrangler 2.5L 5-Speed White, 2" BL, Warn rear bumper, warn winch, warn rock sliders.

(SOLD) 1987 wrangler 2.5L 5-speed BLACK!
S.O.A. with 4" springs and a 2" body lift. Lincon locked front. 33" TSL's NEED bigger tires!!

(WRECKED) 2002 Apex Wrangler 4.0L 5-Speed Silver
2.5" skyjacker single flex, skyjacker shicks, Rock Krawler adjustable lower control arms f/r, 1.25" JKS body lift, 1" JKS motor mount lift, JKS Quicker Disconnects, Warn engine/transmission skid plate, Rock Crusher Front diff cover, Poison spyder rocker knockers, 1.25 wheel spacers, 4.10 gears f/r, Detroit Trutrack rear, aussie automatic locker front

(CURRENT) 2006 Wrangler Rubicon Unlimited LJ 4.0L 6-speep, Silver, 3.5" Rubicon express lift with Rubicon express disconnects. Hella 500 lights, HID Bi-xenon headlights, Rock-It intake, Red top Optima, Factory MOPAR rocker knockers, TNTCustoms Front full tube fenders, 35x12.5R15 BFG KM2, Black steel wheels.
06_LJCON is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2008, 12:47 PM   #55
mdm
Farm Wheeler
2000 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Elkmont, AL
Posts: 7,890
If you are running beads in your tires, fix-a-flat type flat fixers are a big no. This will cause the beads to clump and not move inside the tire properly. I had beads in my wife's tires until her uncle "fixed" a flat for her when she was visiting family up north. It caused a horrible shake.

If you pop a bead off-road in mud or water you will have to break down the tire and clean it out. You will later have to replace the beads unless you are somehow able to recover, clean, and dry them.

You will need to be careful what you use to air up your tires. An air source with water or oil can also cause the beads to clump.

I am using the Dyna Beads from Innovatve Balancing in 35x12.5 BFG KM2 tires. They work well, with a slight shimmy at around 45 mph. Take a look at their FAQ, How it Works, and Advice pages. There is a lot of good information to be found there.
http://www.innovativebalancing.com/news.htm
http://www.innovativebalancing.com/HowItWorks.htm
http://www.innovativebalancing.com/application.htm

When I have a wheel off I can hear the beads when I roll the tire but I never hear them when driving.
mdm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2008, 04:16 PM   #56
USMC_XJ
Web Wheeler
 
USMC_XJ's Avatar
1994 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Jacksonville, NC
Posts: 1,345
Quote:
Originally Posted by NJHCx4xLIFE View Post
Air down with the valve stem at the top of the wheel... all the bbs will be sitting at the bottom of the tire.
makes sense. i was just worrying about that, but i will try the 8 oz of airsoft BB's. i have read somewhere that 8 oz is around 2,000 airsoft pellets. can anyone confirm this?
__________________
1994 Cherokee Sport - 4.0 HO - AW4 - 4WD

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob99
The next time you want to tell a story but not get people's opinions, rather than post it on an internet forum, open up Microsoft Word, type your story there, then click on the little X in the top right corner and then hit yourself in the head with a sledge hammer.
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigsquat
If he finds the yj section im putting round headlights on mine.
USMC_XJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2009, 10:55 PM   #57
Dad03
Registered User
1975 CJ5 
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 236
Would'nt lead bird shot work and fit through valve?
Dad03 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2009, 08:40 AM   #58
Eaallred
Registered User
1962 CJ5 
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: West Valley City, UT
Posts: 244
Hmmmmm.

Would 8 oz. of water work as well as 8 oz. of beads?

If you don't have steel rims, I can't see it causing any real damage.
Eaallred is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2009, 09:47 PM   #59
ep191
Registered User
1998 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 1,722
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eaallred View Post
Hmmmmm.

Would 8 oz. of water work as well as 8 oz. of beads?

If you don't have steel rims, I can't see it causing any real damage.
First of all like you said most people have steel rims so that isn't the best idea.

And I'm not an evaporation expert but i imagine 8oz of water to start, will not always be 8oz of water in the future. I'm sure water would work but it would take so much maintenance to work well.
ep191 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2009, 08:37 AM   #60
Eaallred
Registered User
1962 CJ5 
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: West Valley City, UT
Posts: 244
Quote:
Originally Posted by ep191 View Post
First of all like you said most people have steel rims so that isn't the best idea.

And I'm not an evaporation expert but i imagine 8oz of water to start, will not always be 8oz of water in the future. I'm sure water would work but it would take so much maintenance to work well.

The water couldn't evaporate anywhere. It will always stay in the tire. The amount of water that would evaporate and stay airborne would be very minimal/unmeasurable.

I bet it would work the same as beads. I'm getting new tires with my tax return, if I end up buying the Harbor Freight tire changer to do it (rather than take the tires in) I may try it.

It will be essentially free, only take some labor on my part to pop the bead and wipe out the water if it doesn't work. Maybe i'll mount the tires, drive it, and if there's a shimmy and a shake, i'll add 8oz of water and drive it again and see what it does. I'll report back if I do it, wether it works or not.
Eaallred is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Thread Tools


Suggested Threads




Glock Forum



Jeep, Wrangler, Cherokee, Grand Cherokee, and other models are copyrighted and trademarked to Jeep/Chrysler Corporation. JeepForum.com is not in any way associated with Jeep or the Chrysler Corp.

Copyright © Group Builder, Inc - All Rights Reserved