[465stroker]

I'd go Racelines...

I lucked out on a set of 5 used 15" Poison Spyderlocks with Nitto 35" Mud Grapplers. Let me tell you the Spyderlocks are heavy at around 32 lb and with a 35" tire my whole tire package is around 120 lbs which is heavy. The wheels & tires are not to bad to mount up except the spare tire which takes some effort!

[tjkj2002]

Originally Posted by BSInc

but for repairibility and serviceablilty (because I drive by braile) I have to go with the Raceline's.

The Hutchinsons will be more reliable and easier to maintain as there virtually zero maintenance unlike normal beadlocks which require frequent re-torquing.No to mantion a whole lot easier to balance.As for the legal part if your beadlocks somehow fail while DD'ing it and kills someone your going to be SOL with the racelines as they do not conform to DOT standards.

[gst95dsm]

Interesting points.... the fact that they are DOT approved when I first started doing research on beadlocks meant little to me really, but now that I've had time to really analyze the wheel designs I'm starting to understand more why this could be a big deal on a street driven vehicle. The fact that on a "traditional" beadlock wheel the actual seal on the outer bead is being accomplished in a manor that in no way represents the design characteristics of the tire is a little scary! Simply pinching the bead between two pieces of metal seems to work, but definitely doesn't correspond with the shape or intended design of a tire's bead area. I happen to work in the tire business, passenger car and light truck applications mainly, and regularly get reports on various tire failures and poor workmanship. Obviously Really BAD things can happen when tire's blow, or wheels fall off / fail. Hmmmmm......... How many of you really think that driving with a traditional beadlock wheel on the street is in some way negligent?

[tjkj2002]

Originally Posted by gst95dsm

Interesting points.... the fact that they are DOT approved when I first started doing research on beadlocks meant little to me really, but now that I've had time to really analyze the wheel designs I'm starting to understand more why this could be a big deal on a street driven vehicle. The fact that on a "traditional" beadlock wheel the actual seal on the outer bead is being accomplished in a manor that in no way represents the design characteristics of the tire is a little scary! Simply pinching the bead between two pieces of metal seems to work, but definitely doesn't correspond with the shape or intended design of a tire's bead area. I happen to work in the tire business, passenger car and light truck applications mainly, and regularly get reports on various tire failures and poor workmanship. Obviously Really BAD things can happen when tire's blow, or wheels fall off / fail. Hmmmmm......... How many of you really think that driving with a traditional beadlock wheel on the street is in some way negligent?

I spent 10 years working on vehicles that use the Hutchinson beadlocks(steel version) and they worked so well and rarely ever failed that all other vehicles were required to be switched to the same design double beadlocks.Talking about 8 wheel drive vehicles that weight 50,000+lbs and can tow over 60 tons.In 10 years I seen maybe 1-2 wheels fail.

[gst95dsm]

Ok well I stand corrected on how I thought the outer beadlock ring was designed..... for a raceline wheel at least. It appears as if they do have the correct contour for the bead and not just a flat surface as I envisioned.



Still doesn't make them "dot" legal, but makes me feel a lot better about them.

[gst95dsm]

Ok so I ordered the Raceline's yesterday. Can't wait to put my hands on them! FWIW, I found a vendor on Pirate able to sell a set for 1100 shipped! I was quoted from just about every forum vendor and this was the cheapest. Davesoffroadsupply.com was the vendor. Hoping they get here quickly.

[MountainMan864]

Should have waited for a new beadlock design to come out designed and patented by B.A.D beadlocks. Check their facebook and youtube out.

[wolfcreek]

Originally Posted by MountainMan864

Should have waited for a new beadlock design to come out designed and patented by B.A.D beadlocks. Check their facebook and youtube out.

I don't know... fastening those lock ring sections inside the tire with nuts and little clevis pins in real life as opposed to an animation strikes me about as easy as pulling teeth rectally.

Also, it looks like it will not allow DIY mounting of the tire.

[BSInc]

You will NOT be disappointed. steel rings or the aluminium? I was impressed with the nice rolled lip on the steel ones. way better then a flat piece of metal you're just "coning in" when you tighten the bolts up. Get yourself a good torque wrench for 16-18 ft-lbs, you're gonna be close friends!

[gst95dsm]

Well I got them..... install was easy. Wheels are nice.

More details in my build thread. http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f22/n...06/index8.html

[MO2500]

Looks good! I have the same set only they are polished/polished, so far they have served me well

[gst95dsm]

Originally Posted by MO2500

Looks good! I have the same set only they are polished/polished, so far they have served me well

Thanks! I just spent some time ready your build thread. Very nice work man. A lot of things you've done I can see in my future.

[schitzangiggles]

Originally Posted by brplatz

Plus Hutchinsons are DOT legal. Not sure on race lines

What is "DOT legal" exactly?
I hear it bandied about but have yet to actually find or see the DOT reg that spell out what is legal and what is not.

Do you mean "MFGR'd to DOT standard, methods or what"?

http://www.sema.org/federal-regulati...ermarket-parts

This is as close as I can find.

http://law.justia.com/cfr/title49/49...36.2.7.16.html

571.110
S4.4 Rims.
S4.4.1 Requirements. Each rim shall:
(a) Be constructed to the dimensions of a rim that is listed pursuant to the definition of test rim in paragraph S3. of §571.109 (Standard No. 109) for use with the tire size designation with which the vehicle is equipped.
(b) In the event of rapid loss of inflation pressure with the vehicle traveling in a straight line at a speed of 97 kilometers per hour, retain the deflated tire until the vehicle can be stopped with a controlled braking application.

[tjkj2002]

Originally Posted by schitzangiggles

What is "DOT legal" exactly?
I hear it bandied about but have yet to actually find or see the DOT reg that spell out what is legal and what is not.

Do you mean "MFGR'd to DOT standard, methods or what"?

http://www.sema.org/federal-regulati...ermarket-parts

This is as close as I can find.

http://law.justia.com/cfr/title49/49...36.2.7.16.html

571.110
S4.4 Rims.
S4.4.1 Requirements. Each rim shall:
(a) Be constructed to the dimensions of a rim that is listed pursuant to the definition of test rim in paragraph S3. of §571.109 (Standard No. 109) for use with the tire size designation with which the vehicle is equipped.
(b) In the event of rapid loss of inflation pressure with the vehicle traveling in a straight line at a speed of 97 kilometers per hour, retain the deflated tire until the vehicle can be stopped with a controlled braking application.

The DOT approval just means they have been tested by DOT or tests by other agencies and submitted to DOT.About the same process tires must go through before getting there DOT stamps.

[schitzangiggles]

You didn't even read the links did you?