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Unread 03-03-2014, 07:42 PM   #1
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33-34 all season tires

Rather uncommon question around here I guess, but after upgrading axles to an 8.8/hp44, I'd like to resign my 31 treps to off road duty only and run around on some 33-34 street tires, eventually upgrading to 35s when the 31s wear out.

The biggest I can seem to find are 285/70-17 dura grapplers, which are highly rated behind 1 ton trucks.

Ideally, I'd like something like a 255/85-17 but that size doesn't exist. Basically looking for a 33x10.5-ish tire.

Anyone else have any ideas?

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Unread 03-03-2014, 11:49 PM   #2
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255/75R17C exists. Several brands available. That's 32 x 10 R17 load C. MIght also be available in other load ratings too.

255/80R17 exists. Several brands available. That's 33 x 10 R17. I don't know what load ratings are available.

I don't know if those are available in all season treads. Maybe. Perhaps all terrain treads? Maybe. Mud treads? Defineatley.
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Unread 03-04-2014, 05:12 AM   #3
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Excellent highway tires with sizes approximating what you want (the first three are my personal favorites):
  • Firestone Destination LE2 exists in sizes approaching 32" for a 17" wheel. (275/60R17, 265/70R17)
  • Pirelli Scorpion Verde All Season exists in sizes approaching 32". (285/65R17, 265/70R17)
  • Continental CrossContact LX20 (265/70R17, 275/60R17)
  • BFG Rugged Terrain (285/70R17, 265/70R17)
  • Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza (265/70R17)
  • Goodyear Assurance TripleTred (265/70R17)


You could compromise and use mildish AT tires for highway purposes (these are all very tame compared to your Treps or any other MT tire you'd use and are very good on the highway; there are many more AT choices, but these are the mildest ones that came to mind since you're originally looking for a highway tire):
  • Yokohama Geolander ATS (sizes for 17's range all the way up to 37")
  • Firestone Destination AT (sizes for 17's range all the way up to 34.5")
  • BFG AT (up to 37")
  • 285/70R17 Treadwright Warden (33", identical to BFG AT for half the price--$125 vs $250)
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Unread 03-04-2014, 06:55 AM   #4
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I should've said, I'm not stuck on a 17" wheel... Just happened to be what I found.

I've been using tire rack and maybe they don't list all sizes because I don't see a lot of the ones pointed out there.

I think a 15" wheel will fit over the brakes on a HP44 so if there are larger, street tires in a 15" wheel, I'm sure they will be cheaper.

Thanks for the help.

The geolanders look pretty good BTW. I know this may be a blasphemous statement, but I want to stay as far away from the BFG KOs as possible. They are trying to be a jack of all trades, but miss all the marks and are mediocre on the road, mediocre on snow, terrible in mud, and mediocre on rocks. I've made it places with my 31 treps at 20psi that a jeep on 37" KOs was struggling to get through, even with lockers.

Please don't try and change my mind on them. They are over priced junk as far as I am concerned and would only run them if I got them for free.
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Unread 03-04-2014, 07:23 AM   #5
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Don't worry. I won't try to change your mind about them. I'm not a fan either, but I'm not about to say they're a BAD tire--just overrated and overpriced. I just threw them in the list because I thought they might appeal.

Anyway, I'll dig again for you when I get home from work to see if other wheel sizes have anything else to offer you.

Tirerack does not necessarily list/sell all sizes.

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Unread 03-04-2014, 07:37 AM   #6
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I was talking about the sizes Charlie listed. Sorry.
Yeah, I'm thinking that a mild AT tire might not be the end of the world, I'm just looking for something cheap, and hopefully lighter weight to get back some mileage.

I think hampton roads is the used tire capital of the world, so I might try calling around to see what is available around here as well.

I appreciate the help
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Unread 03-04-2014, 01:12 PM   #7
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I'm pretty close to pulling the trigger on a set of Toyo AT2's in 285-75-17 which comes out to 34x11.50. It's their "Extreme" style so it's a little beefier than the normal LT's

Worth checking out
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If you can run a 15" wheel, then why not some 33 x 10.5 R15 AT tires? Though I realize there are no all season tires in that size, there are all terrain tires. BFG AT at least.
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Unread 03-04-2014, 01:39 PM   #9
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I'm pretty close to pulling the trigger on a set of Toyo AT2's in 285-70-17 which comes out to 34x11.50. It's their "Extreme" style so it's a little beefier than the normal LT's...
285/70/17 is a 32.8x11.2 equivelant...

285/75/17 is a 33.9x11.2 tire, and is available in the A/T II, but only in a load range E.

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Unread 03-04-2014, 04:29 PM   #10
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Gordon,

Warning: this is a very long post.

The following tires have numerous routes to diameters smaller than 32", and you're not likely interested in anything smaller, so I won't be listing all of those sizes. AT tires are also pretty common in larger diameters, so I'll try to stick to the rarer (on this forum) highway/touring genre since that's what you asked for and all you really need anyway. I'll just try to list sizes (categorized by wheel size) that might interest you.

I am not just listing tires to you willy-nilly. With the exception of the Cooper Zeon LTZ (which I know little to nothing about), I trust all of the following tires to a respectable degree.

I will also try to highlight when a size comes in a P or C rating as that would be ideal for a TJ; if you want a D or E rated tire, my highlighting of P or C does not mean D/E isn't available, so do not assume that. Almost all of these come in E, some have D, but I want to make a special effort of pointing-out the P/C availability.

Firestone Destination LE2 (unsure of load ratings at this time):
  • 18
    • 265/70R18 (33")
  • 20
    • 275/60R20 (33")

I LOVE the Pirelli Scorpion Verdes, but the sizes I supplied above are about it for what would interest you. These are all P-rated.

Continental CrossContact LX20 (my second favorite; all are P-rated):
  • 16
    • 265/75R16 (32")
  • 17
    • 265/70R17 (32")
  • 18
    • 255/70R18 (32")
    • 265/70R18 (33")
    • 265/65R18 (32")
    • 275/65R18 (a little bigger than 32")
  • 20
    • 275/60R20 (33")

Cooper Zeon LTZ (a bit of a highway/AT hybrid; all load E which is a little bit of a con):
  • 16
    • 265/75R16 (32")
  • 17
    • 265/70R17 (32")
    • 285/70R17 (33")
  • 18
    • 275/70R18 (a hair over 33")
  • 20
    • 275/65R20 (a hair over 34")
    • 305/55R20 (a hair over 33")

Cooper Discoverer HT3 (Cooper Discoverer HT comes in similar sizes--one or two of which are load C):
  • 16
    • 235/85R16 (32")
    • 265/75R16 (32" C rated)
    • 285/75R16 (33")
  • 17
    • 235/80R17 (32")
    • 245/75R17 (32")
    • 265/70R17 (32")
    • 275/70R17 (a hair over 32")
  • 18
    • 275/70R18 (a little over 33")
    • 275/65R18 (a hair over 32")

Yokohama Geolander HTS (3 versions include the standard G051, the sportier generally lower profile G052, and the high load rated G053---I'd stick to the G051 if possible):
  • 16
    • 235/85R16 (32")
    • 265/75R16 (32"; P-rated)
    • 275/70R16 (32"; P-rated)
    • 285/75R16 (33")
  • 17
    • 235/80R17 (32")
    • 265/70R17 (32"; P-rated)
    • 315/70R17 (35"; D-rated)
  • 18
    • 255/70R18 (33"; P-rated)
    • 275/65R18 (33"; P-rated)
    • 285/60R18 (32"; P-rated)
  • 20
    • 275/55R20 (32"; P-rated)

OK, at this point I'm seeing there are lots of sizes that hit the 32ish" mark. I'm going to stop listing them to save time since you asked for 33+" anyway. Clearly there are 33" options, so I won't waste time listing the more common, smaller sizes that you're less interested in. If you want me to edit this post to remove all the 32's I've listed to make it easier for you to sort-out, let me know, and I'll nuke it.

General Grabber HTS:
  • 17
    • 285/70R17 (34")
    • 315/70R17 (35"; D-rated)
  • 18
    • 265/70R18 (33"; P-rated)
    • 275/70R18 (a hair over 33")
  • 20
    • 275/65R20 (a hair over 34")
    • 275/60R20 (33"; P-rated)

Michelin LTS MS2:
  • 16
    • 285/75R16 (33")
  • 17
    • 285/70R17 (33")
  • 18
    • 265/70R18 (33"; P-rated)
    • 275/70R18 (a hair over 33")
  • 20
    • 275/60R20 (33"; P-rated)
    • 275/65R20 (34")

FYI:
Regarding stock wheel options: I'm sure you know that YJ, TJ, XJ, and ZJ all have the same bolt pattern and have numerous 15" wheels and a few 16's. What you may not be as aware of is that KJ and KK also have the same bolt pattern and have numerous 16's, a few 17" options, and an 18". If you want 18's, Dodge Magnum/Challenger/Chargers have some nice 18" options that fit Jeeps quite well. Their bolt pattern is technically 5x115mm while ours is 5x114.3mm--that's only a radial difference of 0.35mm and is quite inconsequential; I've seen many XJ guys including Urban Yan (one of my favorite street XJ's) use these wheels with no problems after years of daily driving. The following may be of some assistance to you as well if you don't want to buy aftermarket wheels...
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Craigslist, ebay, here, other classifieds....

There's no XJ wheel thread, but YJ, TJ, ZJ, XJ, KJ, and KK all have the same bolt pattern (5x4.5 or 5x114.3). I have a list compiled of all alloy 5x4.5 Jeep wheels with whatever extra info about them I've been able to confirm. I'll probably add the steelies to at at some point.

Jeep alloy 5x4.5 pattern wheels.
  • 5 Slot 15x6 unknown BS (probably 4.25)
  • Turbine 15x7 5.25 BS
  • Lace 15x7 5.25 BS
  • 5 Star 15x7 5.25 BS
  • 10-hole 15x7 5.25 BS
  • Teardrop 15x7 5.25 BS
  • Ecco 15x7 5.25 BS ~19 lbs
  • Grizzly 15x7 5.25 BS ~19 lbs
  • Canyon 15x8 5.5 BS ~20 lbs
  • Ravine 15x8 5.5 BS ~17-18 lbs
  • Gambler 15x8? 5.5 BS
  • TJ Moab 16x8 5 BS ~25.5 lbs
  • Icon 16x7 5.25 BS ~21 lbs
  • ZJ Timberline (aka Snowflake) 16x? 5.25 BS
  • TSI 16x7? 5.25 BS
  • Silver star (ZJ 5.9) 16x7 5.25 BS ~20-21 lbs
  • No info on early ZJ 5 slanted spoke wheels.
  • Unknown name KJ wheel 16x7 unknown BS (prolly 5.5) ~24 lbs
  • Unknown name KJ wheel 16x7 unknown BS (prolly 5.5) ~24 lbs
  • Unknown name KJ wheel 16x7 unknown BS (prolly 5.5) ~24 lbs
  • Unknown name KJ wheel 17x7.5 unknown BS (prolly 5.5)
  • Keystone 16x7 unknown BS
  • Victory 17x7 unknown BS
  • Echelon 18x7 unknown BS
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Unread 03-04-2014, 05:15 PM   #11
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Ho-Lee-****

Talk about a comprehensive list.
Wow.

There is a lot of really good info here.

Unfortunately with an HP44 I am limited to a 5x5.5 pattern wheel, of which there are many, but that wheel interchange info is great stuff!!!

I think this is more than enough to get me going.

Thanks!
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Ho-Lee-****

Talk about a comprehensive list.
Wow.

There is a lot of really good info here.

Unfortunately with an HP44 I am limited to a 5x5.5 pattern wheel, of which there are many, but that wheel interchange info is great stuff!!!

I think this is more than enough to get me going.

Thanks!
Sorry, I had forgotten about the HP44. I'll leave the wheel info up there for others as long as you're OK with it.
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Unread 03-04-2014, 07:50 PM   #13
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285/70/17 is a 32.8x11.2 equivelant...

285/75/17 is a 33.9x11.2 tire, and is available in the A/T II, but only in a load range E.

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OOPS!!! 70/75 slight difference there. Thanks

Yeah its a load E range tire sadly, not too thrilled about that.

The Cooper STT is available in a 33x12.50x17 in a D load and they typically last 40k compared to 50k for the AT2's but again, at a load E its a toss up
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Unread 03-05-2014, 01:45 PM   #14
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Well, one of my Duratrac's got a tear on the road today, guess my decision between the Cooper STT 33x12.50x17 & Toyo AT2 285-75-17 is going to happen sooner than I expected...
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i'm a toyo fan. the ones i had handled great and did very well on snow and ice in the winter. and the one you listed will be taller and more skinny for sure, more inline with your original posting requirements.
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