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Unread 01-25-2014, 05:10 PM   #1
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17s on a TJ

So I've had a plan of eventually going to 17" wheels on my TJ. I want the 17s for bigger brakes, and I like the stability of the 35" on 17s combination.


So with that said I really really like the Hutchinson Rock Monsters, but they don't seem to make these for the TJs in 17" variety. I considered running the 17" 5x5.5 version which I still may do since that's what I'm doing now with 15s


(picture from a forum member, these are the 15s)

My second choice was the AEV Pintler Beadlocks. No longer available for the TJ.




So that leaves me with the option of running spacer adapters, or get different wheels.

So I've found 17s and bead locks 5x4.5 in the following

Price highest first:

Raceline RT233-AL Monster $430 each



Trail Ready HD17 $395 each



Walker Evans 17" Racing Wheels $395 each



Spyderlock 17s $390 each



KMC XD222 $310 each




Non beadlock wheels

Mickey Thompson Classic Locks $203 each

(from a fellow forum member)



My current setup is similar to the 17s above except in 15s with custom rings, so I'm a bit partial to these/this design.

ATX AX195 $190 each



ATX AX194 $190 each



There are 2 sizes of these with differences is BS and offsets.


The problem with these nonbeadlock wheels is the fact that they're not beadlocks. Fortunately Staun makes these babies:

http://www.4wheelparts.com/Wheels/Be...turer_PQ=Staun

You can get a set of 5 for right close to $1000.


So with all that said, I'm a bit at a loss.

My list of wants in order.

1. 17s
2. Something that looks good.
3. Proper BS (trying to ditch the spacers/adapters)

At this point I'm strongly considering one of the ATX versions, but by the time I turn those into beadlocks I'm looking at dang close to $400 a wheel.

When you think of it that way, those KMCs look pretty good, all of those true beadlocks look pretty good since they're all close to $400. The only hitch with that is I don't like the looks of any of those true bead locks except for the Hutchinsons and Pintlers. Back to square one.


So this leads me here, do you guys and gals know of other good looking 17s that are a bit cheaper to sway my staun position, or some better looking true beadlocks that might sway my decision to go that way?

All options and opinions welcome. More pics of TJs with 17s wouldn't hurt either.

A thread with some nice beadlock pictures:

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f59/b...-rims-1056295/

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Unread 01-25-2014, 07:00 PM   #2
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I thought Staun went out of business. Or maybe they did and then somebody else bought the product line. I can't remember. I also that reviews of them were very mixed.

Love my Racelines. If you shop around you should be able to do better than the price you listed. Or you can watch classifieds. That's where I got mine. The rings were a bit gouged up but I can change those if it bothers me. I think Redlyner was selling a set a couple months ago since he changed bolt pattern. Not sure if he sold them.
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Unread 01-25-2014, 08:13 PM   #3
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I'd PM some vendors and get some real pricing on your list of possible wheels. I don't get the impression they really sell for MSRP.
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I thought Staun went out of business. Or maybe they did and then somebody else bought the product line. I can't remember. I also that reviews of them were very mixed.

Love my Racelines. If you shop around you should be able to do better than the price you listed. Or you can watch classifieds. That's where I got mine. The rings were a bit gouged up but I can change those if it bothers me. I think Redlyner was selling a set a couple months ago since he changed bolt pattern. Not sure if he sold them.
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I'd PM some vendors and get some real pricing on your list of possible wheels. I don't get the impression they really sell for MSRP.
I figured I'd be able to chat up the vendors, and get a deal if I had to buy new. I generally get all a lot of my stuff preowned, as it's the only way I can financially justify this hobby.

I too am finding mixed reviews and info about staun's. One of the reasons for the thread.


I still have qualms about the looks of most of those wheels, which is likely the reason I don't have a set in mind, and thus the whole reason behind this thread.

Good comments so far, thank you both.
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This is no help at all, but I would ditch the big brakes for the Rock Monsters - best looking wheel ever for a TJ. I've even considered them for my stock TJ even though the 3.62" backspacing would make it look like a skateboard.
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This is no help at all, but I would ditch the big brakes for the Rock Monsters - best looking wheel ever for a TJ. I've even considered them for my stock TJ even though the 3.62" backspacing would make it look like a skateboard.
IMO this is poor advice. Big brakes for big tires should be must for everybody. Until you've actually used the 17" big brake kit you have no idea what real braking is with your jeep. To give up the safety these provide for a cosmetic reason is a bad idea.
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Spyderlocks look the best IMO
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IMO this is poor advice. Big brakes for big tires should be must for everybody. Until you've actually used the 17" big brake kit you have no idea what real braking is with your jeep. To give up the safety these provide for a cosmetic reason is a bad idea.
The owner of that rig with Rock Monsters and big tires the OP posted obviously doesn't know he has to have 17" brakes, and doesn't know what real braking is. Hutchinson should be required to inform buyers that the 15" Rock Monsters should not be used with large tires, because to do so will jeopardize their safety, since the " must have" 17" big brake kit can't be installed.
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The owner of that rig with Rock Monsters and big tires the OP posted obviously doesn't know he has to have 17" brakes, and doesn't know what real braking is. Hutchinson should be required to inform buyers that the 15" Rock Monsters should not be used with large tires, because to do so will jeopardize their safety, since the " must have" 17" big brake kit can't be installed.
Yes, they should. Manufacturers sell all sorts of things that are bad ideas. Stupidity of the consumer, very often for cosmetic reasons, knows no bounds.
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Having run a 15" Vanco kit with 35" tires, I would be happy to use that setup again. A well setup TJ on 35" tires can run a LOT of the trails out there.

Were I to be thinking 35" for now and maybe 37" in the future the only size I would consider was a 17" rim due to tire availability.

I would caution the OP to review load ranges before purchasing tires. I have Load Range D on my TJ now and the ride definitely isn't as good as a Load Range C tire. There are a lot more LR D tires in a 17" than C, even in flotation sizes.
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Having run a 15" Vanco kit with 35" tires, I would be happy to use that setup again. A well setup TJ on 35" tires can run a LOT of the trails out there.

Were I to be thinking 35" for now and maybe 37" in the future the only size I would consider was a 17" rim due to tire availability.

I would caution the OP to review load ranges before purchasing tires. I have Load Range D on my TJ now and the ride definitely isn't as good as a Load Range C tire. There are a lot more LR D tires in a 17" than C, even in flotation sizes.
Completely agree with sticking with load range C tires. Fortunately there are good options even up to 40"+ but you do have to pay attention.

With respect to the brakes and 15s, the 16" brake kit can be made to fit with many 15s. OP, worth doing if you choose to stay with 15s.
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Yes, they should. Manufacturers sell all sorts of things that are bad ideas. Stupidity of the consumer, very often for cosmetic reasons, knows no bounds.
I hope all those guys out there using Rock Monsters with big tires don't take offense at being called stupid!
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Completely agree with sticking with load range C tires. Fortunately there are good options even up to 40"+ but you do have to pay attention.

With respect to the brakes and 15s, the 16" brake kit can be made to fit with many 15s. OP, worth doing if you choose to stay with 15s.
So now the 17" brakes are not really a must have, and it's not stupid to run big tires on 15s as long as you can stuff the 16" brake kit in there!
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I hope all those guys out there using Rock Monsters with big tires don't take offense at being called stupid!
How many serious wheelers are running 35"+ tires on 15 beadlocks? Not that many. That's why there aren't many choices in that size because nobody buys them. But yeah, I do think it is dumb move.
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So now the 17" brakes are not really a must have, and it's not stupid to run big tires on 15s as long as you can stuff the 16" brake kit in there!
No, it still is not a smart move IMO, but there are ways to mitigate it and from my actual experience I am providing advice to people who choose to do that.

It's an internet forum. You have your opinions. I have mine. People who read the threads can choose who to listen to. There are two kinds of people on internet forums. Those who talk a lot and those with actual experience. I choose to listen more to those in the second category.
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