Jeep Fantasy - Page 6 - JeepForum.com
Search  
Sign Up   Today's Posts
User: Pass: Remember?
Advertise Here
Jeep Home Jeep Forum Jeep Classifieds Jeep Registry JeepSpace Jeep Reviews Jeep Gallery Jeep Clubs Jeep Groups Jeep Videos Jeep Events Jeep Articles
Go Back JeepForum.com > General Jeep Forums > Jeep Engineering - Q&A > Jeep Fantasy

FS: 2007-2013 Jeep Wrangler "HALO" Angel Eye KitFS: Wranger BRIGHT License Plate LED! Just $3! Great valueOfficial Chassis Saver Rust Preventive Truck & Auto Un

Closed Thread
Unread 03-25-2008, 03:33 PM   #76
jeepin71
Registered User
1994 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 26
YA same idea as a cherokee, fare sized and tough machines

jeepin71 is offline  
Unread 03-25-2008, 03:35 PM   #77
Unlimited04
Read tech links in my sig
 
Unlimited04's Avatar
2004 LJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Colorado
Posts: 22,974
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeepEngineers View Post
Assume you've all seen teh JT truck concept? [ tan pickup ]

Is that the right size ?
the Jeep pickup is definitely a good idea. a small mid-sized pickup would be idea for me, like the AEV Brute. You could use the Dodge Dakota frame and just change the body panels around. Add a small Cummins diesel, a 4.7L V8 and the 3.8L V6. Towing capacity around 5500-6000lbs.
Unlimited04 is offline  
Unread 03-25-2008, 03:35 PM   #78
JeepEngineers
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Michigan, USA
Posts: 1,041
Quote:
Originally Posted by 07WKLtd View Post
I agree with the others who are looking for more diesel options. While I have always been a gasoline V8 fan, the 3.0CRD is a very attractive option.

My idea of a dream Jeep vehicle would be a Rubicon edition in the Grand Cherokee line.

Thanks for listening.
So - you want more off road capability in your Grand ?

We must think like you guys !

You will see another concept on the new Liberty soon . . . also to be seen in magazines near you!
__________________
[FONT="Arial Black"][SIZE="4"]JeepEngineers[/SIZE][/FONT] "INTRODUCING THE GREATEST JEEP[SIZE="1"][/SIZE] LINEUP EVER"
[I][URL="http://www.jeep.com/"]http://www.jeep.com/[/URL]
[URL="http://www.jeep.com/en/experience/community/have_fun_out_there/"]Have Fun Out There![/URL]
[URL="http://www.facebook.com/jeep"]Check out Jeep on Facebook[/URL]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/thejeepchannel"]Check out Jeep on YouTube[/URL]
[URL="http://www.flickr.com/groups/jeepexperience/"]Check out Jeep on Flickr[/URL][/I]
JeepEngineers is offline  
Unread 03-25-2008, 03:38 PM   #79
jeepin71
Registered User
1994 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 26
what do you mean by concept cherokee line, built for pure off roading or you have to get a trail package?
jeepin71 is offline  
Unread 03-25-2008, 03:38 PM   #80
JeepEngineers
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Michigan, USA
Posts: 1,041
Quote:
Originally Posted by tomthbomb View Post
The back woods are filled with Kawasaki Mules and the like. What the motorcycle companies have done is re-invent the original CJ-2. Why doesn't Jeep produce a CJ-2 like vehicle for off road only and take back that market?
Interesting - no VIN and no way to drive it on the road? Maybe that's OK for that market. Those vehicles are very nearly the same size as the early Jeeps.
__________________
[FONT="Arial Black"][SIZE="4"]JeepEngineers[/SIZE][/FONT] "INTRODUCING THE GREATEST JEEP[SIZE="1"][/SIZE] LINEUP EVER"
[I][URL="http://www.jeep.com/"]http://www.jeep.com/[/URL]
[URL="http://www.jeep.com/en/experience/community/have_fun_out_there/"]Have Fun Out There![/URL]
[URL="http://www.facebook.com/jeep"]Check out Jeep on Facebook[/URL]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/thejeepchannel"]Check out Jeep on YouTube[/URL]
[URL="http://www.flickr.com/groups/jeepexperience/"]Check out Jeep on Flickr[/URL][/I]
JeepEngineers is offline  
Unread 03-25-2008, 03:38 PM   #81
jeepin92yj
Registered User
1992 YJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: VA
Posts: 323
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brads_nky_yj View Post
I think Jeep needs to have a truck again, with possibly the diesel in it. If not the diesel at least make a Jeep truck again!! haha
i completely agree a truck model would be awesome.
__________________
[SIZE="5"][B]-Black Betty-[/B][/SIZE]

[SIZE="1"]4.0L 5spd[/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"]Rubicon 4" kit (5" of total lift)[/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"]5/8 Boomerang Shackles[/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"]2" body lift[/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"]35x12.50r15 Mickey Thompson MTZs[/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"]Ford 8.8 Rear with Rugged Ridge diff. cover [/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"]4.88s[/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"]Detroit locker in rear and Lock Right up front[/SIZE]
jeepin92yj is offline  
Unread 03-25-2008, 03:38 PM   #82
bairy
Registered User
2006 LJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Murrieta CA
Posts: 1,371
I would buy a Jeep Truck. Solid axles. Tow rating enough for a TJ/LJ on a flatbed... small body/cab for off road use.


I already have an 87 J20, But I want something NEW!
__________________
2006 LJ Claytonized
1999 TJ stockish
1987 J20
bairy is offline  
Unread 03-25-2008, 03:38 PM   #83
LEDFoot
Registered User
1999 WJ 
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: DFW area, Texas
Posts: 762
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeepEngineers View Post
Is power or economy more important in a diesel ?
I think that depends on the application. In a Wrangler the torque would be more important than economy. in a patriot class vehicle economy would be more important. In a liberty you would need a good compromise.

Also important to me is the added range; not because I personally go on long expeditions, but because I hate going to the gas station
__________________
--Martin
_____________________________________
'99 WJ 4.7 Quadra-Drive w/ 242HD swap... 2WD since my front diff is kaputt :(.
LEDFoot is offline  
Unread 03-25-2008, 03:39 PM   #84
JeepEngineers
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Michigan, USA
Posts: 1,041
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepin71 View Post
YA same idea as a cherokee, fare sized and tough machines

OK - We hear you.

Take a ride in the new Liberty - while not an XJ, it is much better than the previous generation Liberty.

And let me tell you, it is no slouch on the trails [ with proper driving of and IFS system of course ]
__________________
[FONT="Arial Black"][SIZE="4"]JeepEngineers[/SIZE][/FONT] "INTRODUCING THE GREATEST JEEP[SIZE="1"][/SIZE] LINEUP EVER"
[I][URL="http://www.jeep.com/"]http://www.jeep.com/[/URL]
[URL="http://www.jeep.com/en/experience/community/have_fun_out_there/"]Have Fun Out There![/URL]
[URL="http://www.facebook.com/jeep"]Check out Jeep on Facebook[/URL]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/thejeepchannel"]Check out Jeep on YouTube[/URL]
[URL="http://www.flickr.com/groups/jeepexperience/"]Check out Jeep on Flickr[/URL][/I]
JeepEngineers is offline  
Unread 03-25-2008, 03:39 PM   #85
mendelmax
Registered User
2004 WJ 
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Poland, Katowice
Posts: 1,748
I can't waste time to read comments before, so sorry if I suggest something already suggested.

Most comments are about diesels, but since I live in europe we have all your line up with diesels, so I can comment more on what improvements in these diesels I'd like to see- they work great, and have decent power, but I believe you should work more on biofuel capability. Biodiesel is the nearest future, and remember that many of us buy jeeps to use them 10-15 years. I'd love to buy a biodiesel jeep to be able to run biodiesel when regular diesel prices will be much worse than now.

As for other improvements, I think I'd like to see some simple additions that would help offroad, like swaybar disconnect on WK (just like the one in JK Rubi).

My last suggestion for now is strictly marketing one- how about making trail-rated badge stages? I mean like 3 stages for increasing capability. For example 3 for Rubicons (hope to see WK rubi in the future ), 2 for jeeps with lockers etc, one for regular, capable SUV's like new Liberty. And give precise numbers, what does it mean- how deep it can waterford etc. I know there has to be warranty disclaimer and blah blah blah, but after warranty I'd like to know that my jeep is factory ready "for this and no more".

PS. Anyway guys you are doing great job so far, especially with giving world the JK rubi (one of the last truly capable stock 4x4), so keep it that way
__________________
POLISH JEEP OWNERS CLUB #11

Anyway, nothing will beat Suzuki :D
mendelmax is offline  
Unread 03-25-2008, 03:40 PM   #86
jerryjeeper
Old Jeep Guy
1990 YJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Ottawa Lake, Michigan
Posts: 1,218
When can we expect to see a JK pick-up or retro Scrambler version? Also we really need to stop stalling the domestic diesel program for the JK. There are plenty of buyers out there with demand for anything under the hood other that a "Mini-Van" engine. Torque is the answer not RPM. The 3.8 is not the right motor.
jerryjeeper is offline  
Unread 03-25-2008, 03:40 PM   #87
Unlimited04
Read tech links in my sig
 
Unlimited04's Avatar
2004 LJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Colorado
Posts: 22,974
with regard to power and economy in a diesel - you shouldn't the compromise. the new GM Duramax meets emissions requirements and has something like 660 ft-lbs. We only need half that torque in a Jeep Wrangler and if we want more power, we'll add a chip. As for fuel economy, 30mpg shouldn't be hard to get with a diesel like this. 30mpg in a YJ or TJ have been accomplished with Cummins 4BTA swaps, and those are very simple diesels without the benefit of electronics.
Unlimited04 is offline  
Unread 03-25-2008, 03:40 PM   #88
JeepEngineers
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Michigan, USA
Posts: 1,041
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unlimited04 View Post
the Jeep pickup is definitely a good idea. a small mid-sized pickup would be idea for me, like the AEV Brute. You could use the Dodge Dakota frame and just change the body panels around. Add a small Cummins diesel, a 4.7L V8 and the 3.8L V6. Towing capacity around 5500-6000lbs.
What would you be willing to pay for a truck like this?
__________________
[FONT="Arial Black"][SIZE="4"]JeepEngineers[/SIZE][/FONT] "INTRODUCING THE GREATEST JEEP[SIZE="1"][/SIZE] LINEUP EVER"
[I][URL="http://www.jeep.com/"]http://www.jeep.com/[/URL]
[URL="http://www.jeep.com/en/experience/community/have_fun_out_there/"]Have Fun Out There![/URL]
[URL="http://www.facebook.com/jeep"]Check out Jeep on Facebook[/URL]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/thejeepchannel"]Check out Jeep on YouTube[/URL]
[URL="http://www.flickr.com/groups/jeepexperience/"]Check out Jeep on Flickr[/URL][/I]
JeepEngineers is offline  
Unread 03-25-2008, 03:40 PM   #89
Brads_nky_yj
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Northern Kentucky/Cinci Area
Posts: 3,012
SO far we have established that there needs to be a Diesel Jeep as well as a Jeep Pickup, or both...a Diesel Jeep Pickup!!! hint..hint,...
__________________
93 YJ - SOLD
Brads_nky_yj is offline  
Unread 03-25-2008, 03:40 PM   #90
HackFabrication
Registered User
1976 CJ5 
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Canton, Michigan
Posts: 2,221
I'd like something that doesn't rust out after 32 years:


Just kidding... Too bad The Guvment won't let a mfg build a 'simple' vehicle, with a metal dash, and no doors....
__________________
"In the end...It's all Hack."
HackFabrication is offline  




Jeep, Wrangler, Cherokee, Grand Cherokee, and other models are copyrighted and trademarked to Jeep/Chrysler Corporation. JeepForum.com is not in any way associated with Jeep or the Chrysler Corp.