[jeepin71]

YA same idea as a cherokee, fare sized and tough machines

[Unlimited04]

Originally Posted by JeepEngineers

Assume you've all seen teh JT truck concept? [ tan pickup ]

Is that the right size ?

the Jeep pickup is definitely a good idea. a small mid-sized pickup would be idea for me, like the AEV Brute. You could use the Dodge Dakota frame and just change the body panels around. Add a small Cummins diesel, a 4.7L V8 and the 3.8L V6. Towing capacity around 5500-6000lbs.

[JeepEngineers]

Originally Posted by 07WKLtd

I agree with the others who are looking for more diesel options. While I have always been a gasoline V8 fan, the 3.0CRD is a very attractive option.

My idea of a dream Jeep vehicle would be a Rubicon edition in the Grand Cherokee line.

Thanks for listening.

So - you want more off road capability in your Grand ?

We must think like you guys !

You will see another concept on the new Liberty soon . . . also to be seen in magazines near you!

[jeepin71]

what do you mean by concept cherokee line, built for pure off roading or you have to get a trail package?

[JeepEngineers]

Originally Posted by tomthbomb

The back woods are filled with Kawasaki Mules and the like. What the motorcycle companies have done is re-invent the original CJ-2. Why doesn't Jeep produce a CJ-2 like vehicle for off road only and take back that market?

Interesting - no VIN and no way to drive it on the road? Maybe that's OK for that market. Those vehicles are very nearly the same size as the early Jeeps.

[jeepin92yj]

Originally Posted by Brads_nky_yj

I think Jeep needs to have a truck again, with possibly the diesel in it. If not the diesel at least make a Jeep truck again!! haha

i completely agree a truck model would be awesome.

[bairy]

I would buy a Jeep Truck. Solid axles. Tow rating enough for a TJ/LJ on a flatbed... small body/cab for off road use.


I already have an 87 J20, But I want something NEW!

[LEDFoot]

Originally Posted by JeepEngineers

Is power or economy more important in a diesel ?

I think that depends on the application. In a Wrangler the torque would be more important than economy. in a patriot class vehicle economy would be more important. In a liberty you would need a good compromise.

Also important to me is the added range; not because I personally go on long expeditions, but because I hate going to the gas station

[JeepEngineers]

Originally Posted by jeepin71

YA same idea as a cherokee, fare sized and tough machines

OK - We hear you.

Take a ride in the new Liberty - while not an XJ, it is much better than the previous generation Liberty.

And let me tell you, it is no slouch on the trails [ with proper driving of and IFS system of course ]

[mendelmax]

I can't waste time to read comments before, so sorry if I suggest something already suggested.

Most comments are about diesels, but since I live in europe we have all your line up with diesels, so I can comment more on what improvements in these diesels I'd like to see- they work great, and have decent power, but I believe you should work more on biofuel capability. Biodiesel is the nearest future, and remember that many of us buy jeeps to use them 10-15 years. I'd love to buy a biodiesel jeep to be able to run biodiesel when regular diesel prices will be much worse than now.

As for other improvements, I think I'd like to see some simple additions that would help offroad, like swaybar disconnect on WK (just like the one in JK Rubi).

My last suggestion for now is strictly marketing one- how about making trail-rated badge stages? I mean like 3 stages for increasing capability. For example 3 for Rubicons (hope to see WK rubi in the future ), 2 for jeeps with lockers etc, one for regular, capable SUV's like new Liberty. And give precise numbers, what does it mean- how deep it can waterford etc. I know there has to be warranty disclaimer and blah blah blah, but after warranty I'd like to know that my jeep is factory ready "for this and no more".

PS. Anyway guys you are doing great job so far, especially with giving world the JK rubi (one of the last truly capable stock 4x4), so keep it that way

[jerryjeeper]

When can we expect to see a JK pick-up or retro Scrambler version? Also we really need to stop stalling the domestic diesel program for the JK. There are plenty of buyers out there with demand for anything under the hood other that a "Mini-Van" engine. Torque is the answer not RPM. The 3.8 is not the right motor.

[Unlimited04]

with regard to power and economy in a diesel - you shouldn't the compromise. the new GM Duramax meets emissions requirements and has something like 660 ft-lbs. We only need half that torque in a Jeep Wrangler and if we want more power, we'll add a chip. As for fuel economy, 30mpg shouldn't be hard to get with a diesel like this. 30mpg in a YJ or TJ have been accomplished with Cummins 4BTA swaps, and those are very simple diesels without the benefit of electronics.

[JeepEngineers]

Originally Posted by Unlimited04

the Jeep pickup is definitely a good idea. a small mid-sized pickup would be idea for me, like the AEV Brute. You could use the Dodge Dakota frame and just change the body panels around. Add a small Cummins diesel, a 4.7L V8 and the 3.8L V6. Towing capacity around 5500-6000lbs.

What would you be willing to pay for a truck like this?

[Brads_nky_yj]

SO far we have established that there needs to be a Diesel Jeep as well as a Jeep Pickup, or both...a Diesel Jeep Pickup!!! hint..hint,...

[HackFabrication]

I'd like something that doesn't rust out after 32 years:


Just kidding... Too bad The Guvment won't let a mfg build a 'simple' vehicle, with a metal dash, and no doors....