7/29 Q/A Session - 2007-2008 MK - Page 7

JeepEngineers · 07-29-2008, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeepinz

Will the Dodge Caliber SRT4 head rests (black, thick, solid, covered in leather) fit a Jeep Compass or Patriot? Clearly the base Dodge Caliber HR's look to be the same plastic foam as the Jeeps.

The stock OEM Headrests on the Compass and Patriot are a common source of comfort complaint. It'd be a nice solution for many assuming the seats are the same inside.

Thanks!

They may fit, but we have not tested them nor can recommend them.

JeepEngineers · 07-29-2008, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CharBroiled

seriously? any speed? sweet

Ive been afraid to go past 50 or so in "L".. there is so much of a difference I was afraid I would hurt something.

just to confirm, basically I can shift to "L" at 65 MPH and leave it there (say for when passing and I want to use engine braking to give more control for a quick tuck in)?

The trans protects itself and will not allow the shift if it will exceed the engine speed, so yes you can shift to low at any speed.

JeepEngineers · 07-29-2008, 05:43 PM

Where is the most extreme place you've taken a Compass or Patriot?

polished_heckle · 07-29-2008, 05:43 PM

What creates the difference in ground clearance between a FDII and an FDI with the same 17" wheels and OWL tires? Is it a different spring rate in the struts?

I've seen a FDII beside an FDI, both with same wheels and tires, and the FDII stands 1" taller.

JeepEngineers · 07-29-2008, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by polished_heckle

What creates the difference in ground clearance between a FDII and an FDI with the same 17" wheels and OWL tires? Is it a different spring rate in the struts?

I've seen a FDII beside an FDI, both with same wheels and tires, and the FDII stands 1" taller.

The difference in ride height is due to spring height differences between FDI and the base vehicle.

Jeepinz · 07-29-2008, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JeepEngineers

Where is the most extreme place you've taken a Compass or Patriot?

[YT]www.youtube.com[/YT]

Quite a few brave fools worldwide testing the limits of their MK's on there!

JeepEngineers · 07-29-2008, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeepinz

[YT]www.youtube.com[/YT]

Quite a few brave fools worldwide testing the limits of their MK's on there!

Only get a white screen. Can you repost?

polished_heckle · 07-29-2008, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JeepEngineers

Where is the most extreme place you've taken a Compass or Patriot?

Vedder Mountain, BC.

Still just a rough gravel/rock mountain logging road, but it's got quite large water bars and rough sections. My friend with a 2X4 Nissan extended cab pick up with 30" tires won't take his truck there.

The FDII made it up the road with 5 people and gear in the back at 5-8 kph (half the speed of full size lifted 4X4 pickups), in low gear all the way though and only a couple hits to the undercarriage and hitch.

JeepEngineers · 07-29-2008, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CopperCJ7

Having owned three Jeeps (so far), I have to say that Jeep seems to have swayed far from the true meaning of Jeep. While I agree that Jeep needs to make cars and not just stick to an SUV and a Wrangler-type vehicle, Jeep really needs to get back to its core target audience with at least four vehicles. Vehicles that are leading edge while being capable on and off-road. Something to compete with Land Rover for utility and engineering while looking like a retro flat fender or something even more progressive.

That being said, how about a Wrangler with retro flat fenders and the style of a CJ with some of today's technology? How about a Compass that looks less like that hideous Aztec and more like a rugged cross-platform urban assault vehicle?

I am proud to be a Jeep owner three times over, but in my humble opinion, the Compass and Patriot are jokes in the grand Jeep scheme of things.

C'mon, we know you're more creative than that.

We still offer the Wrangler and the Rubicon model is the most capable Jeep ever. With 7 Jeep vehicles to choose from there are options for different needs. We do offer leading edge features such as ESP, MDS, and TSC for on road and QuadraDrive II, electronic stabilizer bars, and traction control for off-road use just to name a few.

What 4 vehicles do you say Jeep should offer? And is there room for more than 4?

Jeepinz · 07-29-2008, 05:48 PM

That was supposed to be a You Tube link. Quite a few crazies on there. Hours of entertainment.

CopperCJ7 · 07-29-2008, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JeepEngineers

We do not recommend modifying them.

See, that's one of the things that makes a Jeeper a Jeeper. We modify things, we fix things with duct tape, etc etc. True Jeep owners are like the McGyvers of the road.

Maybe today's Jeeps should come with more factory-installed options to beef up their vehicles. I see some dealerships offering better suspensions, lifts, bigger tires, etc. They are becoming very successful. Jeepers might opt to pay for more expensive add-ons if they know they'll be covered and won't void the warranty. That could hold true for ALL Jeep vehicles. At least it's a middle ground and a good starting point.

87warrior · 07-29-2008, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JeepEngineers

1st 3.77, 2nd 2.160, 3rd 1.414, 4th 1.026, 5th 0.810, r 3.42, Final Drive 4.12 , Remember the Patriot is naturally aspirated. The Patriot does meet all on road demands at +10,000 feet. 215/65R17 is the largest tire. This is a 28" dia tire.

Thank you for the reply! Now im curious, is there documentation I could review regarding onroad demands?

Does the Patriot have a transfercase in the same way a Wrangler does or is it just a transmission with two outputs?

With proper care and maintinace, how long should the Patriot last w/o severe mechanical failure? What previous vehicle has the compass, patriot, calibler, etc been built from?

polished_heckle · 07-29-2008, 05:51 PM

a rough track in the road

Vedder waterbars

Following the F-150 with 31" tires

Up a narrow road - the F-150 needed a spotter to clear the trees

CharBroiled · 07-29-2008, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JeepEngineers

The trans protects itself and will not allow the shift if it will exceed the engine speed, so yes you can shift to low at any speed.

cool. I need stuff to be idiot proof so thanks

so what is the maximum speed in "L"? seems to loose pulling power around 50ish and Ive been afraid to just leave it in "L" after that simply to find out.

also, at what point I should shift from "L" to "D" for maximum acceleration or does it not make a difference when its pinned (IE if its floored does the CVT uses the same rations for max acceleration regardless of whether its in "L" or "D")?

**Gramps** · 07-29-2008, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JeepEngineers

Where is the most extreme place you've taken a Compass or Patriot?

Here's a link in JF: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/4801693-post1.html

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