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Unread 07-29-2008, 05:08 PM   #61
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You guys asked the question about why we would want a "LIFT" for the Patriot. Off-road capability would be the main reason and it would probably enhance the appearance as well.

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Unread 07-29-2008, 05:08 PM   #62
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With all the hype over the rear speakers that fold down, why is there no type of low voltage cuttoff / low automatic engine start. Do you know how often my battery dies? I have to carry a jumper box with me at all times...
Thank you for the feedback. How long do you use your speakers w/ the engine off before the battery dies?
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Unread 07-29-2008, 05:08 PM   #63
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Jeep Compass and Patriot...what's to like!?!?

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What prompted you to go the Compass route rather than toward Patriot?
The styling is smoother, more rounded, looks more like the old Liberty, and the Squared off Patriot just looks SO much like a brick. The Compass looks more modern, like it belongs on a freeway at 75mph, and looks like it could potentially get better fuel efficiency.

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The Compass is alive and well. 2009's starting production.
Thanks!

It's nice to shut down the gloom and doom once in a while!

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Unread 07-29-2008, 05:09 PM   #64
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Are the interior deminsions of the Patriot simular to the XJ?

In a 5spd Patriot, what are the final drive gear ratios? Looking to replace a stock 93 Cherokee with the 5spd Patriot and would still like to be able to access certian remote camping areas. Would this be a wise choice?

Do the Patriots have any provisions to run well at +10,000 feet? I only ask because I have seen very few Patriots here in the high country of Colorado.

What is the largest factory tire size that comes on a Patriot?

I really believe the Patriot would be a good addition to the Jeep family of mine. Although, from reading testimonials from owners, their desire for more power has me concerned.
1st 3.77, 2nd 2.160, 3rd 1.414, 4th 1.026, 5th 0.810, r 3.42, Final Drive 4.12 , Remember the Patriot is naturally aspirated. The Patriot does meet all on road demands at +10,000 feet. 215/65R17 is the largest tire. This is a 28" dia tire.
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Unread 07-29-2008, 05:10 PM   #65
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will or can there be any option for the CVT like a "performance/economy" mode switch? like something to keep the engine RPM a bit higher than normal for a bit of a "peppier" feel?
sorry should of been more specific. something that works in "D" automagically rather than using autostick.
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Unread 07-29-2008, 05:10 PM   #66
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Not in terms of future product, but opinion only, do you feel the MK platform would benefit from a diesel powertrain similar to offerings in europe here in NA?
No doubt the diesel would benefit some customers, depending on your usage patterns. The issue is the cost associated with meeting the regulations here in the U.S.

I guess the question we'll throw back to the MK forum is: How much would you be willing to pay for a diesel option?
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Unread 07-29-2008, 05:11 PM   #67
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It's threads like this that make me wonder why people lift there jeeps
its comments like this that make me wonder why some people are jerks.

build thread:http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f197/...ndard-1056365/
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Unread 07-29-2008, 05:11 PM   #68
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dumb question.
what is your take on adding a K&N air filter.
i understand some dealers want to void your warranty over this?

believe it or not!
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Unread 07-29-2008, 05:13 PM   #69
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Do you want the lift for capability or for appearance reasons?

I want the lift because I keep dragging the trailer hitch bike rack through waterbars on logging roads. It's purely a capability reason. The last road I was one shifted the hitch upwards by a couple degrees from hitting the rear of the bike rack (close to where a hitch ball would normally sit).

I know you can't recommend lifting it. That's why I asked what the maximum angles on the CV joints are.
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Unread 07-29-2008, 05:13 PM   #70
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No doubt the diesel would benefit some customers, depending on your usage patterns. The issue is the cost associated with meeting the regulations here in the U.S.

I guess the question we'll throw back to the MK forum is: How much would you be willing to pay for a diesel option?
+1500.00 for AWD diesel
+3000.00 for AWD diesel hybrid...
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Unread 07-29-2008, 05:13 PM   #71
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Jeep Compass and Patriot...what's to like!?!?

Who are the http://www.startech.de Startech tuners?

Is there any official connection with Dodge, Jeep, Chrysler?

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Unread 07-29-2008, 05:16 PM   #72
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will or can there be any option for the CVT like a "performance/economy" mode switch? like something to keep the engine RPM a bit higher than normal for a bit of a "peppier" feel?

sorta like the old XJs had, a "performance/comfort" switch.

BTW love our patriot! nice job guys!
We love the input and continue to work toward satisfying your wants and needs for a "performance/comfort" switch.

If you want a little extra pep you can pull the shift lever down into L and you will get a different shift schedule that give you more gear ratio. This can be done at any time / any speed and the CVT will choose the most appropriate ratio.
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Unread 07-29-2008, 05:16 PM   #73
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No doubt the diesel would benefit some customers, depending on your usage patterns. The issue is the cost associated with meeting the regulations here in the U.S.

I guess the question we'll throw back to the MK forum is: How much would you be willing to pay for a diesel option?
This depends on the fuel economy achieved. I think there would be a large market for the MK equipped with a diesel engine something along the lines of a 2.0L like what is going into the 2009 Jetta TDI. An MK that gets 30+ MPG should demand a couple $$ premium easily. Fuel economy, longevity, range, and low end torque all selling points.
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Unread 07-29-2008, 05:16 PM   #74
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How much would you be willing to pay for a diesel option?

A R.O.I of 2 years would easily convince me to buy a diesel. I'd use the current price of diesel vs the current price of gas and the improved milage from the diesel. I'd keep the diesel for at least 10 years. My Jimmy was 12 years old when I traded it in.

yes, I'd absolutely do the calculations if the diesel had been available in Canada.
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Unread 07-29-2008, 05:18 PM   #75
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I live in one of the RUST belts in this country. Why is there little protective undercoating (something to keep the chassis from getting chipped)?
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