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Thanks for your response!

Thats pretty much what it says in my manual (I loved my wifes compass so much I bought myself a patriot)- Could you give me a little detail in regards to what you mean by "optimizes performance"?

The posts I've read online suggest timing which gives slight torque benefits, and I've also heard responsiveness, but no definates.

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The knock sensor basically "listens" for combustion knock and adjusts the timing to maximize engine efficiency, which of course effects responsiveness, torque, etc....

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Here is my suggestion:

Give us a more capable MK. On another forum, several people have tested their Patriots off-road, and reported problems with power and traction. It seems that once there is too much strain on the CVT, it ceases to send power to the wheels at all.

I loved the idea of the Patriot when it was being released, but I have waited to see how they would perform. So far, I'm not as impressed as I had hoped. There must be a way of packing more capability into a vehicle without sacrificing gas mileage.

Perhaps a "Rubicon" or "Renegade" model Patriot would solve some problems. Something with a true locking differential, more articulation, a higher bumper, a beefier suspension, and some more power.

I'm sure people would pay for more...I would.
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hp is 172 @ 6000 rpm, torque is 165 lb-ft @ 4400 rpm.
Thanks, I'm well aware of the specs.

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Did I mention gas mileage?
Nah, I think you missed that one....
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FDII - What is the maximum additional angle the CV joints can take? With lifting the Patriot with a 2-1/8" body lift similar to the Rocky Road Outfitters, the CV joints are flexed more than stock FDII. What is the stock angle at the CV joints and what is the maximum the CV joints are designed to flex to?

I'm just trying to evaluate the risk of lifting the Patriot IFS.
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That's great to hear. What specifically do you like about the vehicles?
I have the Patriot, and love the interior. Very comfortable to ride in. The fold flat passenger seat is especially useful. The cargo area with the plastic diamond plate instead of carpet is great as well. My one complaint about the interior would be the door locks. The passenger door does not have a lock/unlock button-but thats all I can think of! Capable off road-one of the most practical jeeps of all time!
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I have the Patriot, and love the interior. Very comfortable to ride in. The fold flat passenger seat is especially useful. The cargo area with the plastic diamond plate instead of carpet is great as well. My one complaint about the interior would be the door locks. The passenger door does not have a lock/unlock button-but thats all I can think of! Capable off road-one of the most practical jeeps of all time!
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how much does the cvt affect the mpg in the patriot

The mtx 2.4L 4x4 22 city/27 hwy. The CVT 2.4L 4x4 21 city/24 hwy. The trail rated 2.4L 4x4 CVT2L 20 city/22 hwy.
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I see very few vehicles that have independent suspension and a locking differential, yet a utility vehicle like the Polaris Ranger, is able to incorporate one. Is there a reason for the lack of these in SUV's?
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I'd like to see more fuel capacity. Even thow I like the mpg the tank is a bit small.

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Has there been any thoughts or planning on having a "rally edition" compass? Possibly even with a turbo?

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I see very few vehicles that have independent suspension and a locking differential, yet a utility vehicle like the Polaris Ranger, is able to incorporate one. Is there a reason for the lack of these in SUV's?
sorry...specifically the Patriot.
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Here is my suggestion:

Give us a more capable MK. On another forum, several people have tested their Patriots off-road, and reported problems with power and traction. It seems that once there is too much strain on the CVT, it ceases to send power to the wheels at all.

I loved the idea of the Patriot when it was being released, but I have waited to see how they would perform. So far, I'm not as impressed as I had hoped. There must be a way of packing more capability into a vehicle without sacrificing gas mileage.

Perhaps a "Rubicon" or "Renegade" model Patriot would solve some problems. Something with a true locking differential, more articulation, a higher bumper, a beefier suspension, and some more power.

I'm sure people would pay for more...I would.
It's great that you're having fun off-road! If you're looking to do serious off-roading, what is it that draws you to a Patriot rather than one of the rear wheel drive Jeep products?
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the only thing that is really keeping me from them is I feel a 4cyl gas is not going to give me the power I need, the patriot really reminds me of the Cherokee more than anything else, but it is seems low to the ground and underpowered to really push it. Like every jeep-engineers discussion, people would love you for a small diesel(you knew it was coming).

I really want one to try and off road, but I know that jeep is going for a diff niche...I guess that works. Overall I really enjoy the exterior styling.

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Has there been any thoughts or planning on having a "rally edition" compass? Possibly even with a turbo?
Well, of course we can't discuss future product and powertrain offerings, but Mopar does offer a "Rally" kit with some different body panels and driving lamps that can be added to any Compass...
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