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Unread 11-28-2007, 04:26 PM   #61
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Well, new 2008 Liberty has window controls on the driver door.

Yes, "headlamps on with wipers" feature can be turned on by the dealer !!

I'm sure your parents are enjoying their new Jeep
They probably are, it is their fourth Jeep (2 GC and 2 Liberty). I have yet to see their 07, but I know my mom likes it, from what I have heard.

But seriously, why were the widow controls in the middle in the first place?

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Unread 11-28-2007, 04:28 PM   #62
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Trac-Lok's essentially have two functional abilities; a pre-load (transfers a small amount of torque with a wheel in the air), and torque bias (multiplies torque across the differential). The pre-load is essentially controlled by spring force which does reduce with wear in the differential. The torque bias tends to last much longer. The most effective way to utilize the Trac-Lok differential regardless of remaining pre-load is by modulating the parking brake to generate resistance at both wheels. This allows the torque bias to multiply that resistance across the differential.

Below is the test procedure:

DIFFERENTIAL TEST
The differential can be tested without removing the
differential case by measuring rotating torque. Make
sure brakes are not dragging during this measurement.
(1) Place blocks in front and rear of both front
wheels.
(2) Raise one rear wheel until it is completely off
the ground.
(3) Engine off, transmission in neutral, and parking
brake off.
(4) Remove wheel.
(5) Use torque wrench to rotate
wheel and read rotating torque.
(6) If rotating torque is less than 41 Nm (56 ft.
lbs.) or more than 271 Nm (200 ft. lbs.) on either
wheel the unit should be serviced.
Hey thanks! Great info!
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Unread 11-28-2007, 04:29 PM   #63
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I am curious as to why the new Liberty did not get the 4.0L V6 as an optional engine.
The Nitro, in being a Dodge product, is available with an optional 4.0L to further re-enforce the Dodge performance image

For Liberty, the 3.7L is a proven engine that is well suited for the customer needs of Liberty owners.

Thanks for writing!!
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I know this is about the KK Liberty for the most part, but I'd like to know why my 2006 Liberty diesel's transmission occasionally decides to put itself into limp mode? I have to be doing something very specific.. making a left turn while applying medium to heavy throttle (But not flooring it). As soon as I make my next stop, it locks in 2nd gear and a few seconds later the check engine light comes on. I also hope that I am on my last EGR valve.
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My KK was supposed to be built yesterday and is supposed to ship on Friday, and I can't wait. I wanted a manual, at least v6, with better gas mileage then I get with my explorer (22 sounds better than 16-18 highway). I am very pleased with everything I have read so far and can't wait to get in and drive it.

However, I was very disappointed to learn from my dealer that I could not get the MyGig Infotainment system on the Sport. I am guessing that the production line, when set up for sports, is not capable of putting them in. I do like the idea of some sort of hard drive/mp3/gps solution so I am looking at aftermarket solutions. I have been checking around and heard some people say how hard it is to get the factory radio out, is there any place that you all have specs or instructions on removing those?

Also, I am curious as to the response that you all have been getting with the Skyslider. I really like the idea, however I did not get one because they are brand new and I don't want to have to worry about it leaking or rattling a bunch two years down the road (snow and below 0 temps in winter to a baking 105 degrees in summer here). How has the feedback been on the Skyslider and can you talk a little bit about how it was tested and what life expectancy you all have for it? (i.e. would you compare it to the expectancy of a soft top on a wrangler?)

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Unread 11-28-2007, 04:38 PM   #66
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I know this is about the KK Liberty for the most part, but I'd like to know why my 2006 Liberty diesel's transmission occasionally decides to put itself into limp mode? I have to be doing something very specific.. making a left turn while applying medium to heavy throttle (But not flooring it). As soon as I make my next stop, it locks in 2nd gear and a few seconds later the check engine light comes on. I also hope that I am on my last EGR valve.
I could only speculate on the specifics on why your KJ may be going into limp based on the maneuver you describe. However, everytime it does goes into limp a fault code is stored in the engine controller which the dealer can read and use to diagnose and correct the issue.

I too hope that you are on your last EGR and that your diesel brings you only better experiences. Keep Jeeping!
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Why the Commander style headlights? It would look so much better with the old style that was on the KJ.
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Unread 11-28-2007, 04:40 PM   #68
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Well thought of one last thing. You guys dont have to do this if you wouldn't like but i figured i would ask since you are here.

Im in the process of making a KK website that is linked off of JF (it is apart of JF). I was wondering if you guys could give me a paragraph summing up the 08 KK for me to use in my KK article, it will be quoted appropriately.

Basically if you guys had to sum up the KK in a single paragraph what would it say?

-Kyle

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You can get all kinds of details at jeep.com but if I had to some it up in a short summmary I'd say the all new Liberty is a true Jeep with classic Jeep looks, legendary trail rated off road capability, and improved on road ride. In addition it has more interior room, an industry exclusive feature (Sky Slider), more interior features than any vehicle in its class, enhanced safety and unsurpassed 5,000# towing capability.
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Why the Commander style headlights? It would look so much better with the old style that was on the KJ.
As one of my counterparts noted, styling trends ebb and flow, and for the "chiseled" look of the new Liberty, the "Commander" style headlamps meshed with the overall design theme better than the round KJ style lamps. As always, we appreciate your comments.

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I was told (I have a YJ) that the KJ ball joints were different than the "normal" ball joint...(opposite of the YJ) How are the KK's designed? (same or opposite?)
Both KJ and KK have independent front suspension designs that have a short and long arm design. However the KK design has been improved to provide enhancements in ride quality, steering precision and NVH as well as complimenting the new rear suspension. The ball joint designs are different between the KK and KJ due in part to the above improvements and packaging constraints. I hope this answers your question

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SRT vehicles are for performance, would you like to see an ORT group for Jeep so people can buy them built from the dealerships? Or do you think MOPAR could offer more parts for aftermarket modifications? I've seen plenty of new parts for the 2007-2008 Wrangler, but not much for the 2008 Liberty.
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Thanks guys for taking my KJ questions as well. . Okay, regarding the KK, how tough is the SkySlider, and what is it made from? Is it like a Wrangler soft-top?
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My KK was supposed to be built yesterday and is supposed to ship on Friday, and I can't wait. I wanted a manual, at least v6, with better gas mileage then I get with my explorer (22 sounds better than 16-18 highway). I am very pleased with everything I have read so far and can't wait to get in and drive it.

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Thanks!
In regards to your "My Gig" question-
With Navigation: Ask your dealer to order part number 82211473 for a radio kit- Which is the "RER" or "My Gig" radio with Navigation feature, owner's manual, and GPS antennea
W/o Navigation: If you want to save some $$$ and do not need navigation - Order part 05064245AH, this is the "My Gig" radio without Navigation
- With regards to installing another radio: To install another Chrysler radio that shares the same technology as your Liberty, it would be very easy. However, if you are trying to install an aftermarket radio,the current electrical architecture will make it quite difficult.

With regard to the Sky Slider, everyone that I know that has driven one immediatly falls in love with it. The testing was very extensive. It is designed to function trouble free for over 10,000 cycles. They ran it through a brushless auqasonic car wash for 8 hours straight without leaks, built a dam around the edge and mounded snow/ice then let it thaw, etc. All the concerns you voice were considered and addressed from design thru manufacture and testing. The top material is actually very similar to the Wrangler soft top, with slightly more pliability to recover from the repetitive folding. The response from journalist and consumers has been overwhelmingly positive, once you experience it, you will love it.

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See post # 73
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Thanks guys for taking my KJ questions as well. . Okay, regarding the KK, how tough is the SkySlider, and what is it made from? Is it like a Wrangler soft-top?
See response #73 as it addresses your question as well....
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