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Unread 10-24-2007, 04:50 PM   #91
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Thank you for participating in this event!

I have an '06 GC Laredo 4X4 3.7L with the factory Class II Tow package. The receiver is mounted so high from the ground that I cannot find a drawbar with enough drop to match up to my Coleman popup camper hitch (or any other Class II rated trailer). No one makes a drawbar with more than a 4" drop for this 1.25" receiver for safety reasons. My contention is that Jeep has sold me a tow vehicle that cannot tow a level load without upgrading to a Class III receiver (which has a much larger range of drawbar drops).
I contacted Jeep Customer Service and was told the issue had been noted.
Other than this, we love our Grand!

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Unread 10-24-2007, 04:50 PM   #92
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I have a few requests for the next generation GC

1. Softer Seats with better leather (like the ZJ)
2. Spare Tire back inside (like the WJ)
3. Return the complete guage package (like previous GC's)
4. Raise the GC up 1-2"
5. Have it capable of larger tires (like previous GC's)

Thanks for the suggestions. It's always good to hear ideas from customers.
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Unread 10-24-2007, 04:52 PM   #93
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There were unresolved development issues that prevented the DHS system from being put into production. You are right, it did improve on-road ride comfort as well as better off-road articulation, up to a point. And yes, it did improve handling by dialing in more sway bar.
I'm just curious, could you explain what were this issues? Have you made a prototype? I find this system very interesting. I think I would be satisfied with simple sway disconnect though... Just as I would prefer lockers instead of ELSD
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Unread 10-24-2007, 04:53 PM   #94
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Hello, and thank you for hosting this chat. I only have time for one posting, so I’ll include everything I can think of here:

It would be great if the Grand Cherokee had a trim level similar to the Rubicon for the Wrangler. It should include standard rock rails, larger more aggressive tires in a normal size (265/70/17), better suspension package for more clearance, an optional or standard rear tire carrier like the ZJ had, an electronic swaybar disconnect like the JK has. The Rubicons sell amazingly well, I believe a similar trim of Grand Cherokee would also.

Why do the radio’s offered not have speed compensated volume?

From what I have heard, the new MyGig offers GPS coordinate inputs. If so, this is great, if not, this should be mandatory for off roading purposes.

Are daytime running lights possible yet?

It would be great if there was an option in the EVIC to select if the window lockout feature disabled all passenger windows, or just the rear doors (for kids only).

In the EVIC, why cant we see electronic oil temp, volts, oil pressure, etc. Im sure the WK knows what it is already. Also, an instant MPG would be nice, as well as an average speed option (a la Audi).

You have built an awesome Jeep with the WK.
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Unread 10-24-2007, 04:56 PM   #95
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Will any of the WK engineers be attending the SEMA show next week?
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Unread 10-24-2007, 04:58 PM   #96
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An Idea.

I would be interested, as a current Jeep owner and potential future Jeep owner, in participating in Preliminary Design Reviews and Critical Design Reviews. Think about it.
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Unread 10-24-2007, 04:59 PM   #97
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Will any of the WK engineers be attending the SEMA show next week?
As a corporation, we always try send a cross section of personnel to the SEMA show.
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Unread 10-24-2007, 05:00 PM   #98
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You guys have any idea why my hemi died out while pulling out of the gas station? Thanks
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Unread 10-24-2007, 05:00 PM   #99
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The engine driven fan on my 4.7L 06' Laredo seems to run when it shouldn't and it is very loud and annoying. I have had the jeep for 2 months now and have been driving in 40-60 degree weather mostly. It randomly decides to run on cold start ups and continues to run for 10-15 minutes of driving eventually turning off. If I hold it in 1st or 2nd gear at a high RPM for a block or so the fan will disengage and remain off. If I completely warm up the engine at idle the fan will still run for 10-15 minutes after starting to drive. Sometimes when I start it up with a cold engine the fan won't come at all. I am used to other vehicle fans running with a cold engine but only for a block or so of normal driving. I have always guess that the fan is used to help load up a cold engine and accelerate the warm up proccess but this seems excessive.

Does this sound like normal behavior?
How does the fan engage, is it a viscus clutch or electric?

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The engine driven fan has a viscous clutch. The behavior of your fan is not normal. It is normal for it to run for a few seconds to a minute, especially in cold weather. You should have your dealer inspect and/or replace the fan.
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Unread 10-24-2007, 05:01 PM   #100
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Jeep full-time 4wd systems have always been equipped with automatic transmissions. Is there something fundamental to the full-time system that requires an automatic, or is it possible to hook the 6-speed manual to a full-time system if the market warranted it?
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Unread 10-24-2007, 05:02 PM   #101
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I'm just curious, could you explain what were this issues? Have you made a prototype? I find this system very interesting. I think I would be satisfied with simple sway disconnect though... Just as I would prefer lockers instead of ELSD
I'm sorry, I can't explain those issues to you. It was an interesting system and did much more than a simple sway bar disconnect system. I have lockers (front and rear) in my personal Wranglers but find it much better to drive off-road with the ELSDs, even in very difficult terrain.

The ELSD (Electronic Limited Slip Differential) name is misleading and some people don't have the confidence in them that is warranted. A better, more accurate name would be Electronic Locking Differential. I've done a lot of hard off-roading with the WK and XK since before introduction and the ELSDs have NEVER let me down. Just remember that you have to be in low range to get the full benefit of ELSDs. Their function is modified somewhat in high range to prevent interaction with ESP.
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Unread 10-24-2007, 05:05 PM   #102
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You guys have any idea why my hemi died out while pulling out of the gas station? Thanks
We'll have to look into it. We are not aware of this issue.
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Unread 10-24-2007, 05:06 PM   #103
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On my 2006 WK the wipers were very quiet. On the 2008 they "clunk" every time they hit the end of their upward travel, which is annoying since it rains so much in my area. They are not hitting the edge of the outer A pillar or anything, and the blades and window are clean etc. Is there anything else that can be done, any type of adjustments?

Without reviewing the vehicle, it's always tough to diagnose. One recommendation, check the wiper blade, ensure that the metal inserts are not sticking out. If everything seems ok with the wiper blade, you can take your vehicle to a dealership for service. There is a possiblity that something is clicking under the black plastic cowl piece where the wiper motor is. This would require the dealer to remove this piece to review.

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Unread 10-24-2007, 05:06 PM   #104
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Just a quick comment or two... I have noticed while driving slow <5mph off-roading just some minor flex in the vehicle you can hear the vehicle creaking. It would be nice in future upgrades or models that this could be minimized.
I like the fact you guys are taking time out to listen to us so we can make the GC a better vehicle.
Definently need a Rubicon or equivalent model for the GC.

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Unread 10-24-2007, 05:06 PM   #105
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Thank you for participating in this event!

I have an '06 GC Laredo 4X4 3.7L with the factory Class II Tow package. The receiver is mounted so high from the ground that I cannot find a drawbar with enough drop to match up to my Coleman popup camper hitch (or any other Class II rated trailer). No one makes a drawbar with more than a 4" drop for this 1.25" receiver for safety reasons. My contention is that Jeep has sold me a tow vehicle that cannot tow a level load without upgrading to a Class III receiver (which has a much larger range of drawbar drops).
I contacted Jeep Customer Service and was told the issue had been noted.
Other than this, we love our Grand!
The height of the WK trailer hitch was strategic to maximize departure angle and the placement of the spare tire. You are correct, and 1.25" hitch accessories are much more limited that the 2" hitch accessories. You have suggested that upgrading to a class III (or class IV offered on V-8 GC) would be a viable option.
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