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Unread 05-11-2013, 03:53 PM   #1
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ZJ versus IH scout, which would you wheel

So I just picked up a pretty cool 77 Scout II project. Been jonesing for a topless vehicle, and for a scout. It was the perfect storm of justification.

Then I got to thinkin......These things aren't that far off a ZJ dimensionally, or weight wise. The engines are also extremely comparable, the V8s are similar output, the six cylinder is sort of the same engine even. Main difference is it's absolutely an old school 4x4 with 4 leaf springs, locking hubs, etc.

So, which would you rather wheel and why?



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Unread 05-11-2013, 04:16 PM   #2
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So, which would you rather wheel and why?
Old Bronco.

I'd love to have a Scout. My uncle had a couple when I was a kid and I always thought they were pretty cool. Old school and easy to work on but heated seats in the winter and A/C in the summer is nice. Fuel injection and easy to find parts is nice too. All that wiring and computers can be a pain but from what I understand Scouts can be an electrical nightmare too. I dunno?

Gonna have to go with the Bronco.
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Scout for cool factor, but to really wheel would need to throttle body injection or drop efi engine in
I would probably beat on the zj and run the scout on some 35s and mild stuff, like the mall
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V8 zj at 6" . Double tri rear and true 3 link front. Stretched to 108"
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Unread 05-11-2013, 05:15 PM   #4
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Old Bronco.

Those are sweet too.
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Unread 05-11-2013, 05:17 PM   #5
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I've owned a 1980 Scout II and it was my favorite vehicle; a real head turner. I have 37" tires and it was lifted up huge. I now have a 5.9 zj. I can do anything in my jeep that my scout could do and I only have 31"s. The jeep is just a lot better off-roadability. The scout did have a better nostalgia about it.
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Unread 05-12-2013, 07:05 AM   #6
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Were the differences off road related to flex?
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Were the differences off road related to flex?
Night and day. Leaf springs run flat with soa still can't touch a coiled suspension
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Unread 05-12-2013, 07:25 AM   #8
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My father and I owned and wheeled several Scout II's through the late 70's and into the 80's. In fact I still have my 72 Scout II which was my very first vehicle (looooong term project)

When Scouts were discontinued in 80 we started driving Fords then jumped all over the ZJ when they hit the market. I view ZJ's as what Scouts would have become if they kept making them.

Wheel both.
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Unread 05-12-2013, 07:55 AM   #9
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75 ScoutII was my first 4WD back in late 80's. 345/727/44's and 31's.

I loved the full convertible, hated lifting that heavy top. Took it to Northern Maine in 89 and it shook all the Bondo loose from previous owner.. body mounts are known to rot as well. Clean Scouts are bringing good money nowadays.
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Night and day. Leaf springs run flat with soa still can't touch a coiled suspension
you have not seen a properly set up leaf spring system.

I agree, i would rather have links and coils, but leafs properly set up can hang with the best of them.

i'd go with the scout. love my ZJ's, but the scout has that cool factor going for it.
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you have not seen a properly set up leaf spring system.

I agree, i would rather have links and coils, but leafs properly set up can hang with the best of them.

i'd go with the scout. love my ZJ's, but the scout has that cool factor going for it.
Sorry, should have specified simple rigs, there are certainly leaf setups out there that will max out an Rti ramp
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Scouts can be had with posi front and rear in dana 44, and a stick shift, twin stick v8. And the top comes off. If I had the money I'd have a scout for sure
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Unread 05-13-2013, 01:53 PM   #14
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When Scouts were discontinued in 80 we started driving Fords then jumped all over the ZJ when they hit the market. I view ZJ's as what Scouts would have become if they kept making them.

Wheel both.
Agree wholeheartedly

After crawling all over this scout......If I was presented with a ZJ and asked to choose it's father without knowing any history.......no way I'd pick a wagoneer out of all the Jeep/AMC offerings. It'd be scout II for certain.
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My wife's uncle has a scout with d44s front and rear on 31s. That's bout what I know bout it so far but plan to wheel it next to the wife's zj this summer then ill report back.
He is also having to replace the entire wiring harness right now.
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