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post #16 of 31 Old 07-15-2010, 02:35 PM
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Front track bar needs nothing for 3", but the back did need to be lengthened. I heated and pressed the stock one a little longer to center the rear axle when it's sitting empty.

To deal with this, there are actually at least three ways. First, straighten what you've got a wee bit, like I did. Or, you can go for an adjustable track bar instead, which is nice because it may accommodate larger lifts in the future. Or go for the relocation bracket, which people say can rip off, but may reduce the chances of your tires rubbing on the springs during compression, when the axle moves over. The relocation bracket maintains stock geometry for the rear track bar, so the axle has less lateral movement with a relocation bracket than with a lengthened or adjustable track bar.

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post #17 of 31 Old 07-15-2010, 03:21 PM
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OK, so I've got a stock 4.0

I would move the front coils to the back... and what do I put in the front?
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post #18 of 31 Old 07-15-2010, 04:17 PM
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You put 3" spacers in the front, with your stock coils. SO, 4 stock front coils, 2 spacers, and you're lifted. Then, you'll be looking for shocks (although stock are fine if you're not wheeling), longer rear track bar solution, and probably rear LCAs to deal with any driveline vibes you don't like.
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post #19 of 31 Old 07-15-2010, 05:51 PM
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Well I need to replace my shocks anyway so it would be a good time to do it.

I haven't seen 3" spacers though, I thought 2" maybe 2.5" is the max safest size?
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post #20 of 31 Old 07-15-2010, 11:00 PM
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3" is definitely safe for the front, and Fat Bob's is at least one place you can buy them.

With liability the way it is, you know this is safe if people are actually selling it!
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post #21 of 31 Old 07-16-2010, 07:17 AM
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Jeep ZJ Grand Cherokee Suspension Lift If you are going to buy spacers, used coils for the front, a trac-bar bracket, shocks, and lower control arms, this will likely be cheaper than sourcing the parts individually.

  1. '95 XJ country edition, 4" coils/3/4" spacers, HD leafs with extra main added in, Ironman adjustable control arms, rough country shackles, aussie locker, JK rubicon shocks, 35" mudder's, soft 8's, cobra cb
  2. Sold'99 WJ limited, 4.7L, 3" IRO lift. Bilstein shocks, JK rubicon wheels, 255/70/17's, carolina driveshaft, IRO adjustable control arms, IRO adjustable A-arm
  3. Sold '00 TJ, 4" lift, rusty's adjustable control arms, skyjacker shocks, rock krawler adj. trac-bar,rugged ridge SYE and RE driveshaft, soft 8's, 35" mud king xt's,XJ HP D30 w/aussie locker, 4:88 yukon gears, hella 500's, rock crusher diff covers
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post #22 of 31 Old 07-17-2010, 01:58 AM
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Spacers are $50 (plus shipping)

Adjustable Control Arms are $150 shipped


The trackbar can be straightened for free, and I didn't actually need swaybar endlinks for the first 12 years I had this lift in (then I made discos), but it's easier to bolt on the bracket than to straighten.

The shocks from that kit are $30 each plus shipping, so, say $150

Coils cost whatever your local yard charges ($20 a pair plus taxes near me).

In other words, you certainly don't save much, if anything, by piecing it together!! Good find XJfever.
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post #23 of 31 Old 07-17-2010, 09:02 PM
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ive been reading for weeks. everyone says that the front and rear track bar arnt necessary but a good thing to get once u get the money.
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ive been reading for weeks. everyone says that the front and rear track bar arnt necessary but a good thing to get once u get the money.
yes and on the rear the sooner the better for either a bracket or a trackbar, because after time, your springs will contact your swaybar extensions and make quite the amount of noise and you will be posting things on JF like " ahhh the noise is driving me nuts!!" or my tire sounds like its going to fall off!!!


I went a year and a half on a stock TB with a 3" lift... i would not advise it.

I am in the process of going through my entire suspension before winter to get it it tip-top shape (for a 15 yr old vehicle)

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Im about to start on my front to rear lift on my 94.I have the 4.0 and bought some rubicon express 3.5 for the front.I just need to get the dang rear tires off which wont move
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post #26 of 31 Old 02-20-2013, 09:40 AM
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For front to rear swap just subtract the amount you would pay for two springs you would have bought for the back and that's your price. That is the only savings.
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Sorry to jumo in but how would one spot an Upcountry equipped ZJ at the yard? Do they have badging on them stating such?
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Different color shocks. Full skid plates and hooks. 1" taller.
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post #29 of 31 Old 02-20-2013, 03:58 PM
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I6 ZJ coils rear. give ou 3" been there.

if you have an I6 ZJ you could get up country springs (V8) and run them up front with a 2.5" spacer to get 3" give or take. done this. it rode nice.

you will need new shocks.

rear track bar was ok. i'd definitely do a front adjustable track bar now though. now; you can just reuse your stock one, and redrill the hold over a little but, but eventually, you are going to kill the joint on this track bar as the jeeps old etc. blah blah blah. so might as well do it now.

also, same with control arms. if hte bushings aren't shot they will be eventually. as Polka said, theres more to it than just springs.


THAT SAID............... for just the basic 3" I6 coils,ZJ, eithe rfront 3" springs or the stupid 3" spacer, a front track bar and shocks. fairly cheap still. in fact, i think IRO sells a front to rear kit like that


quite frankly, if you're just running a 31" tire and cost is important i'd just get a 2" budget boost and call it good.

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I6 ZJ coils rear. give ou 3" been there.

if you have an I6 ZJ you could get up country springs (V8) and run them up front with a 2.5" spacer to get 3" give or take. done this. it rode nice.

you will need new shocks.

rear track bar was ok. i'd definitely do a front adjustable track bar now though. now; you can just reuse your stock one, and redrill the hold over a little but, but eventually, you are going to kill the joint on this track bar as the jeeps old etc. blah blah blah. so might as well do it now.

also, same with control arms. if hte bushings aren't shot they will be eventually. as Polka said, theres more to it than just springs.


THAT SAID............... for just the basic 3" I6 coils,ZJ, eithe rfront 3" springs or the stupid 3" spacer, a front track bar and shocks. fairly cheap still. in fact, i think IRO sells a front to rear kit like that


quite frankly, if you're just running a 31" tire and cost is important i'd just get a 2" budget boost and call it good.
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