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post #1 of 46 Old 06-02-2011, 10:41 PM Thread Starter
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ZJ flat-iron custom bumper

just built this bumper from 5/16 channel iron altogether cost under $100. welded to frame, took about 6 hours of labor(not really focusing too hard) to finish. Im pleased with it for now might run some sheet metal under to hide the radiator and give it more of a fuller look later. here are some pics from start to finish, sorry didn't include all steps and I ended up welding the mounts with more surface area touching the frame, unlike in the picture. finished it off with bedliner.










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post #2 of 46 Old 06-02-2011, 10:53 PM
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Don't use those rings for recovery. You may kill someone.

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post #3 of 46 Old 06-02-2011, 10:57 PM
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Aside from the rings it looks pretty good for a home built.

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It might just be the angle, but I think it hangs a little low.

Looks good though

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i would agree with heep and monkey, those rings may not be strong enough for recovery points. if they were brought through from the back, welded and bolted they may fare.

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post #6 of 46 Old 06-03-2011, 08:23 AM
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I can't really see, but did you run a flat area under the grille to mount a winch?

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i like it, i think on a lifted zj it would be more proportional
i wouldnt use those as recovery points
that bumper would be the perfect application for a forward hitch to be installed,
then you could
-have a reliable and safe recovery point
-hitch mounted winch that could be used front or rear
-very very easy way to park a boat or trailor
- and could put a little propeller on the front for a little added stability

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post #8 of 46 Old 06-03-2011, 12:01 PM
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That looks good!!
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post #9 of 46 Old 06-03-2011, 12:34 PM
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i like it, i think on a lifted zj it would be more proportional
X2!! Get some bigger tires and springs under that beast and the bumper would look way more at home.

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post #10 of 46 Old 06-03-2011, 01:20 PM
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Very nice indeed. Are you planning to add a winch bracket?
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post #11 of 46 Old 06-06-2011, 09:00 PM
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Don't use those rings for recovery. You may kill someone.
RM,

why do you say not to use those rings?

Is it because of the type of weld?

I know nothing about welding so if you have the time please explain it in simple terms.

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forgot to ask one more question

if someone wanted to do something like this where you weld the rings to the bumper what would be the best way to do it?

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forgot to ask one more question

if someone wanted to do something like this where you weld the rings to the bumper what would be the best way to do it?

You need at least 3/4" thick steel tabs coming through the bumper that are properly welded to the brackets that are very securely anchored to the frame rail. These tabs go way back and have a lot of weld bead on them to keep them from pulling off.

Or you could get something like THESE and mount them from the inside of the bumper through a small cutout.

Then you need actual RECOVERY SHACKLES, not those silly door knockers you have there.

Welding those cheap thin metal d-rings to the face of the bumper steel is not enough for recovery. They will break off or pull the sheet steel with it and create a missile of death.

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RM,

why do you say not to use those rings?

Is it because of the type of weld?

I know nothing about welding so if you have the time please explain it in simple terms.
Not often I agree with tally, this is one of those times. He pretty much nailed it.

It should be a piece of 3/4 or 1" stock run through the bumper and incorporated into the mount system so the load goes directly to the frame instead of the bumper. It would be welded front and rear to the plate. If you used box it would go all the way through. And should be welded 4-6" deep along the bumper mount tabs.

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2 times i have seen recovery points fail in a bad way
one shackle went through a trucks window and out the winshield with strap in tow
another one happened 2 summers ago clearing trails at a hunt club, d ring took that hat and some scalp off of a 15 year old kid's head. inch lower and he would probably be dead.
they both happened with snatch snaps
ive also seen a chain break and imbed itself in a trucks tailgate
IMO bumpers should always be built around the recovery point, not build the bumper and then add the tow points.

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