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Unread 02-18-2011, 07:23 AM   #16
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I belive needles aren't surposed to be removed at all. I've read somewhere that once you remove the needle from the speedometer, you can kiss it goodbye.

Ricers have made it socially acceptable to remove your gauge needles so fancy gauge faces with carbon fiber flames can be applied. People that care about gauge accuracy generally don't do it.

Then again, when you consider most OEM gauges are packed full of useful information like "L" and "H", is it really a big deal if the needle's 1/16" off?

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Unread 02-18-2011, 10:38 AM   #17
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I did this as well....................

Another cheep little trick....... is to paint the gauge trim surround white, this is the thin black peace of ABS that sits on your gauge cluster and will come off with little effort.

Prime it and paint it white (spray paint) and when its all back together it looks sweet, with the fresh paint in the gauge needles and the white surround mixed with LED gauge lights its very clean and crisp and is very nice at night .
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Unread 02-18-2011, 10:42 AM   #18
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oh yeah and the ppl that are afraid to mess with there instrument panel, should really not condemn others for having a steady enough hand to work on there's..... to each his own.

I work with "small things" every day lol

I view it as an improvement in guage visibility, which makes my vehicle safer at night.
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Unread 02-18-2011, 10:44 AM   #19
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I did this as well....................

Another cheep little trick....... is to paint the gauge trim surround white, this is the thin black peace of ABS that sits on your gauge cluster and will come off with little effort.

Prime it and paint it white (spray paint) and when its all back together it looks sweet, with the fresh paint in the gauge needles and the white surround mixed with LED gauge lights its very clean and crisp and is very nice at night .
Any pics?

And are you guys buying drop in led's, or just wiring them up yourself?



I was looking at my needles yesterday too, thinking about trying to paint them. I wonder if you did like said above, taking a playing card under the needle, and sandwich a paintbrush in between the two to paint the back of the needles.

hmm...
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Unread 02-18-2011, 06:08 PM   #20
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Wasn't condemning, was just saying it seemed to effect the dampning effect of the gauge.
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Unread 02-21-2011, 08:11 AM   #21
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Any pics?

And are you guys buying drop in led's, or just wiring them up yourself?



I was looking at my needles yesterday too, thinking about trying to paint them. I wonder if you did like said above, taking a playing card under the needle, and sandwich a paintbrush in between the two to paint the back of the needles.

hmm...
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f197/...-98-zj-767865/
this link will give u all the info u need about LED replacement, they r drop in.
I am an electronics repair guy, I work with electronics at a component and circuit level everyday, with that being said TRUST ME WHEN I SAY, BUY THE DROP INS !!!!



as far as needles I used "amber" acrylic testers model paint, the same you would use to paint turn signal lights on a model car.



I'll work on pics tonight ....... its nothing special
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Unread 02-21-2011, 08:13 AM   #22
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for some reason i cannot edit my post....................

but yes I laid an index card under my needles to paint, I DID NOT REMOVE THE NEEDLES. forget that s*** !
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Unread 02-21-2011, 12:16 PM   #23
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It always bugged me having white needles in my zj, seems like everything else orange in these things turned white as well, like the shift indicator and the door lock indicators.
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Unread 02-22-2011, 05:41 PM   #24
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the way JF makes you upload pics is f****** stupid so i guess i cant post pics......PM ur e-mail and I will email them to ya
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Unread 02-22-2011, 07:49 PM   #25
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I also did this on my old 96 but i just went over the needles with an orange permanent marker and it came out awesome. sorry i have no pics and dont have it anymore
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Unread 03-07-2011, 12:07 PM   #26
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yes I know this thread is a few weeks old, but I just now got my pic issue figured out;
but this is what my gauge bezel looks like painted white,
sorry about the quality.
photo0125.jpg   photo0126.jpg  
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Unread 04-22-2011, 06:00 PM   #27
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any more pics? prefably some night shots without wobble?
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Unread 10-29-2011, 11:37 PM   #28
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Ricers have made it socially acceptable to remove your gauge needles so fancy gauge faces with carbon fiber flames can be applied. People that care about gauge accuracy generally don't do it.

Then again, when you consider most OEM gauges are packed full of useful information like "L" and "H", is it really a big deal if the needle's 1/16" off?
I'm not sure if you have to pull the needles off. Maybe you can pop the black plastic off the top of the needles base then remove the face plate off over the needle.

I haven't done a face plate change with my Jeep though when I had my first BMW I was able to slide aftermarket faceplates over the needles with no clearance issues or damage to the needles



On the ZJ, once you have the cluster out each gauge can be taken out separately (I know since I had to replace a bad speedo)

anyhow.. I figure if you can remove the gauges then maybe you can remove the face plate then have better access behind the needle to paint it

well just a thought and my 2 cents
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Unread 11-13-2011, 07:42 PM   #29
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You could also try a translucent or candy paint.
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