ZJ body modification ideas - what's yours? - JeepForum.com

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 17 Old 01-27-2005, 11:34 AM Thread Starter
josephmartins
Web Wheeler
 
josephmartins's Avatar
2001 WJ 
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Milford
Posts: 1,155
ZJ/WJ/WK body modification ideas - what's yours?

Here's the deal for all you ZJ/WJ/WK owners...

You've read my recent posts about the custom ZJ hood group buy and the 5.9-style louvers going into production. I now have a relationship with a manufacturer that is interested in developing an entire line of body add-ons just for us Jeepers.

The initial focus will be ZJ, WJ, and WK owners with potential to branch into other models later this year. This is a huge opportunity since there are few if any resources for custom body add-ons for our vehicles.

Less than a week ago I asked you all for your opinion of an idea that I had for my ZJ - a custom cowl induction hood. After a little research I discovered how much time, money, and expertise the project would require and I thought my idea was dead in the water. I called local tooling shops, but the shops wouldn't even touch the idea for less than several thousand dollars up front (tooling is very expensive). By chance, a couple days ago I stumbled across a reputable manufacturer willing to work with us as long as we could find other Jeep owners interested in the same product. And so the relationship was born.

How does it work?

If we have an idea, and we can find a minimum number of fellow Jeepers who want in on the product, for example a custom set of ZJ fender flares, then the manufacturer would be willing to invest in the tooling, and manufacturer the product.

A traditional "group buy" (e.g. www.4x4groupbuy.com) typically involves a product that is already in production, and relies on a volume purchase to negotiate a lower price. In contrast, this is an opportunity for us to turn custom body concepts into reality -- so long as we find enough like-minded buyers.

Want a one-piece flip up front end for your ZJ? Find enough people and I'll help make it happen. I kid you not.

I wanted the cowl hood so bad I could taste the fiberglass....and now I have nearly half the number of people needed in order to place the group buy. What would have cost me god knows how much in time and money to attempt to make on my own, I'll be able to buy -- professionally crafted -- for less than $600.

Now tell me that isn't cool!!

Now the real fun begins. I've already discussed Renegade-style ZJ fender flares, custom rocker panels, custom lightbars, the cowl hood, and the 5.9 louvers.

If you'd like to contribute your ideas, I would like to make a proposal to the moderators. Can we create a forum for the ideas under Grand Cherokee Forum or under the Off-road Performance section (similar to the other sub-forums such as Fab Shop) where members can contribute proposals/ideas? Other members could then indicate their interest in the ideas. And with enough interest we could pitch an idea to the manufacturer. With luck, they'll make the part for us. Your thoughts?


Kind regards,

Joe Martins
Milford, NH

12 Wrangler Sahara JK8 conversion, <10 miles (FOR SALE, $56,700)
01 WJ Limited, 4.7, 247, black on black, 157k miles (sold)
96 XJ Classic, 4.0, 242, black on grey, 267k miles (sold)
00 XJ Sport, 4.0, 242, fern green on grey, 76k miles (sold)
90 XJ Wagoneer, 4.0, 242, burgundy on tan, unknown mileage (sold)
97 ZJ Limited, 5.2, 249, black on black, 138k miles (wrecked 12/15/05)
98 ZJ Limited, 5.2, 249, burgundy on black, 197k miles (sold)

Last edited by josephmartins; 01-27-2005 at 12:17 PM.
josephmartins is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 17 Old 01-27-2005, 11:43 AM
DSMjunkie
Registered User
2008 JK Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: milford
Posts: 636
all i want is the fenders....and maybe a body kit front bumper damnit

White Jeep Club Member #982
Air Force Jeep Club Member #16
2k8 JK
1997 nissan stagea drift wagon
1998 legacy wagon grip monster
DSMjunkie is offline  
post #3 of 17 Old 01-27-2005, 11:46 AM
grandman97
Web Wheeler
 
grandman97's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Trumbull,CT
Posts: 1,193
i'd be down for a custom light bar
grandman97 is offline  
post #4 of 17 Old 01-27-2005, 11:59 AM
Only In A Jeep
Registered User
 
Only In A Jeep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: New Bedford, MA
Posts: 84
The fender flares sound cool.
How 'bout...a snorkel?

1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo I6 w/ Selec-Trac
Billet Grille
Altezza Tailights
Clear Corner Lights
Tinted Windows
System (stolen)
Chrome Exhaust Tip
Rain Guards
After-Market Clear Headlights
Sylvania Silverstar Bulbs
Only In A Jeep is offline  
post #5 of 17 Old 01-27-2005, 12:00 PM Thread Starter
josephmartins
Web Wheeler
 
josephmartins's Avatar
2001 WJ 
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Milford
Posts: 1,155
Quote:
Originally Posted by DSMjunkie
all i want is the fenders....and maybe a body kit front bumper damnit
DSM, the WJ Renegade-style fender flares are already in the works. In fact, the manufacturer is already planning to lay out a set from the original mold so I can take pictures to post here on the JeepForum.

Now if only I had a WJ on which to install them. Any local volunteers? I'm serious.

Keep in mind it's not a mass-produced fender (in fact there's nowhere on the planet where you can buy it right now except right here). From my initial conversations, I got the impression the complete set would run no less than $600. Not bad considering a comparable set of mass-produced flares for the XJ run nearly $400 (http://www.rocky-road.com/xjflare.html). As time goes by, and there's increased interest from WJ owners, I imagine the price will come down a bit, but not much. It's a complex part to make.

When you consider the average cost these days of a decent lift kit, a decent push bar or bumper, a roof rack, and wheel/tire combos, it's still a great price. I dropped that much on a set of tires alone.

Kind regards,

Joe Martins
Milford, NH

12 Wrangler Sahara JK8 conversion, <10 miles (FOR SALE, $56,700)
01 WJ Limited, 4.7, 247, black on black, 157k miles (sold)
96 XJ Classic, 4.0, 242, black on grey, 267k miles (sold)
00 XJ Sport, 4.0, 242, fern green on grey, 76k miles (sold)
90 XJ Wagoneer, 4.0, 242, burgundy on tan, unknown mileage (sold)
97 ZJ Limited, 5.2, 249, black on black, 138k miles (wrecked 12/15/05)
98 ZJ Limited, 5.2, 249, burgundy on black, 197k miles (sold)
josephmartins is offline  
post #6 of 17 Old 01-27-2005, 12:02 PM
DSMjunkie
Registered User
2008 JK Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: milford
Posts: 636
ill pay 500 for them


i have it in hand right now lol

i want them BAD

White Jeep Club Member #982
Air Force Jeep Club Member #16
2k8 JK
1997 nissan stagea drift wagon
1998 legacy wagon grip monster
DSMjunkie is offline  
post #7 of 17 Old 01-27-2005, 12:07 PM Thread Starter
josephmartins
Web Wheeler
 
josephmartins's Avatar
2001 WJ 
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Milford
Posts: 1,155
Quote:
Originally Posted by grandman97
i'd be down for a custom light bar
Anything specific Mike? Have a sketch? I've been toying with a special low-profile design that hugs the ZJ roofline, mounts to the existing roof rails, and uses small, but powerful 100+W lamps. I'll see if I can scan my own sketches this weekend.

Kind regards,

Joe Martins
Milford, NH

12 Wrangler Sahara JK8 conversion, <10 miles (FOR SALE, $56,700)
01 WJ Limited, 4.7, 247, black on black, 157k miles (sold)
96 XJ Classic, 4.0, 242, black on grey, 267k miles (sold)
00 XJ Sport, 4.0, 242, fern green on grey, 76k miles (sold)
90 XJ Wagoneer, 4.0, 242, burgundy on tan, unknown mileage (sold)
97 ZJ Limited, 5.2, 249, black on black, 138k miles (wrecked 12/15/05)
98 ZJ Limited, 5.2, 249, burgundy on black, 197k miles (sold)
josephmartins is offline  
post #8 of 17 Old 01-27-2005, 12:13 PM Thread Starter
josephmartins
Web Wheeler
 
josephmartins's Avatar
2001 WJ 
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Milford
Posts: 1,155
Quote:
Originally Posted by DSMjunkie
ill pay 500 for them


i have it in hand right now lol

i want them BAD
LOL!!

Man I could have sworn that said $400 a few minutes ago.

Tell you what, since I don't own a WJ I couldn't use a set of flares like that. But if you help find others who are interested, I'll see what they can do as far as a price based on that volume. Assuming they can use the original High and Mighty mold still (it's been in storage since that project was completed over a year ago), they might go for it. No promises.

Kind regards,

Joe Martins
Milford, NH

12 Wrangler Sahara JK8 conversion, <10 miles (FOR SALE, $56,700)
01 WJ Limited, 4.7, 247, black on black, 157k miles (sold)
96 XJ Classic, 4.0, 242, black on grey, 267k miles (sold)
00 XJ Sport, 4.0, 242, fern green on grey, 76k miles (sold)
90 XJ Wagoneer, 4.0, 242, burgundy on tan, unknown mileage (sold)
97 ZJ Limited, 5.2, 249, black on black, 138k miles (wrecked 12/15/05)
98 ZJ Limited, 5.2, 249, burgundy on black, 197k miles (sold)
josephmartins is offline  
post #9 of 17 Old 01-27-2005, 12:15 PM Thread Starter
josephmartins
Web Wheeler
 
josephmartins's Avatar
2001 WJ 
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Milford
Posts: 1,155
Quote:
Originally Posted by Only In A Jeep
The fender flares sound cool.
How 'bout...a snorkel?
Only -

Isn't there a snorkel already on the market for a ZJ and WJ? I'm pretty sure there is.

But if you're looking for something more unique, say a different shape, or mounting configuration, post here and we'll see what other members think if it.

Kind regards,

Joe Martins
Milford, NH

12 Wrangler Sahara JK8 conversion, <10 miles (FOR SALE, $56,700)
01 WJ Limited, 4.7, 247, black on black, 157k miles (sold)
96 XJ Classic, 4.0, 242, black on grey, 267k miles (sold)
00 XJ Sport, 4.0, 242, fern green on grey, 76k miles (sold)
90 XJ Wagoneer, 4.0, 242, burgundy on tan, unknown mileage (sold)
97 ZJ Limited, 5.2, 249, black on black, 138k miles (wrecked 12/15/05)
98 ZJ Limited, 5.2, 249, burgundy on black, 197k miles (sold)
josephmartins is offline  
post #10 of 17 Old 01-27-2005, 12:17 PM
DSMjunkie
Registered User
2008 JK Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: milford
Posts: 636
Quote:
Originally Posted by josephmartins
LOL!!

Man I could have sworn that said $400 a few minutes ago.

Tell you what, since I don't own a WJ I couldn't use a set of flares like that. But if you help find others who are interested, I'll see what they can do as far as a price based on that volume. Assuming they can use the original High and Mighty mold still (it's been in storage since that project was completed over a year ago), they might go for it. No promises.
ive posted other places...im about the only one that wants em...thats why noone makes them

White Jeep Club Member #982
Air Force Jeep Club Member #16
2k8 JK
1997 nissan stagea drift wagon
1998 legacy wagon grip monster
DSMjunkie is offline  
post #11 of 17 Old 01-27-2005, 12:25 PM Thread Starter
josephmartins
Web Wheeler
 
josephmartins's Avatar
2001 WJ 
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Milford
Posts: 1,155
Quote:
Originally Posted by DSMjunkie
ive posted other places...im about the only one that wants em...thats why noone makes them
Just to let you in on how I'd go about finding the people....

WJs already come with a pretty impressive fender flare. The High and Mighty flares you desire are much wider and more aggressive. They were adapted from the Liberty. Those flares would appeal to WJ owners running a much larger or wider tire. They'd look plain silly mounted on something with tires as small as mine (245-70R16s). So you might search cardomain, or nagca and look for rigs that meet those criteria. Find them, and see if they're interested in those flares.

Kind regards,

Joe Martins
Milford, NH

12 Wrangler Sahara JK8 conversion, <10 miles (FOR SALE, $56,700)
01 WJ Limited, 4.7, 247, black on black, 157k miles (sold)
96 XJ Classic, 4.0, 242, black on grey, 267k miles (sold)
00 XJ Sport, 4.0, 242, fern green on grey, 76k miles (sold)
90 XJ Wagoneer, 4.0, 242, burgundy on tan, unknown mileage (sold)
97 ZJ Limited, 5.2, 249, black on black, 138k miles (wrecked 12/15/05)
98 ZJ Limited, 5.2, 249, burgundy on black, 197k miles (sold)
josephmartins is offline  
post #12 of 17 Old 01-27-2005, 12:33 PM
DSMjunkie
Registered User
2008 JK Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: milford
Posts: 636
ill do my best....most deff

White Jeep Club Member #982
Air Force Jeep Club Member #16
2k8 JK
1997 nissan stagea drift wagon
1998 legacy wagon grip monster
DSMjunkie is offline  
post #13 of 17 Old 01-27-2005, 12:33 PM
Only In A Jeep
Registered User
 
Only In A Jeep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: New Bedford, MA
Posts: 84
Quote:
Originally Posted by josephmartins
Only -

Isn't there a snorkel already on the market for a ZJ and WJ? I'm pretty sure there is.

But if you're looking for something more unique, say a different shape, or mounting configuration, post here and we'll see what other members think if it.

I don't think there are any snorkels for Grand Cherokees. The only one I've ever seen was a do-it-yourself project on NAGCA.com... ZJ Snorkel

The person states in the write-up.."Besides, everybody knows there is no snorkel for Grands…" blah blah blah

So hopefully others will throw in some ideas on how to make one or just copy the write-up and mass produce it.

1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo I6 w/ Selec-Trac
Billet Grille
Altezza Tailights
Clear Corner Lights
Tinted Windows
System (stolen)
Chrome Exhaust Tip
Rain Guards
After-Market Clear Headlights
Sylvania Silverstar Bulbs
Only In A Jeep is offline  
post #14 of 17 Old 01-27-2005, 12:36 PM Thread Starter
josephmartins
Web Wheeler
 
josephmartins's Avatar
2001 WJ 
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Milford
Posts: 1,155
Quote:
Originally Posted by Only In A Jeep
I don't think there are any snorkels for Grand Cherokees. The only one I've ever seen was a do-it-yourself project on NAGCA.com... ZJ Snorkel

The person states in the write-up.."Besides, everybody knows there is no snorkel for Grands…" blah blah blah

So hopefully others will throw in some ideas on how to make one or just copy the write-up and mass produce it.
Very interesting! I was not aware of the lack of a ZJ snorkel. Anyone else looking for a ZJ snorkel?

Kind regards,

Joe Martins
Milford, NH

12 Wrangler Sahara JK8 conversion, <10 miles (FOR SALE, $56,700)
01 WJ Limited, 4.7, 247, black on black, 157k miles (sold)
96 XJ Classic, 4.0, 242, black on grey, 267k miles (sold)
00 XJ Sport, 4.0, 242, fern green on grey, 76k miles (sold)
90 XJ Wagoneer, 4.0, 242, burgundy on tan, unknown mileage (sold)
97 ZJ Limited, 5.2, 249, black on black, 138k miles (wrecked 12/15/05)
98 ZJ Limited, 5.2, 249, burgundy on black, 197k miles (sold)
josephmartins is offline  
post #15 of 17 Old 01-27-2005, 12:36 PM
PlatinumZJ
Senior Moment Member
 
PlatinumZJ's Avatar
1997 ZJ 
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 2,274
Joe, the Wk on WKJEEP.COM has some cool looking side vents... something like that might look cool on a ZJ.
Attached Thumbnails
2005_wk_mojave_001.jpg  

Doug
When all is said and done, more is said than done.
Platinum '97 ZJ LTD, I6 (see profile) Paid for!
Links: Kevin (AKA KOR) for ZJ & WJ stuff,
Kolak for performance stuff. I6 performance info at Dino's jeep 4.0 performance site
Other stuff: Kevin's Roof Rack. KOR sliders, Bored 62mm TB, Blaupunkt Bermuda w/ ipod, Brembo Slotted rotors,
OME steering stabilizer, H4 headlight upgrade...
PlatinumZJ is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the JeepForum.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid e-mail address for yourself.



Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Jeep Forums Replies Last Post
Modification 56040662HJ ???? crash47 WK Grand Cherokee & XK Commander Forum 5 12-30-2008 10:01 AM
What's Your Favorite Modification!? mystrdylan ZJ Grand Cherokee Forum 25 04-05-2006 02:08 PM
Air Box Modification rerun1187 ZJ Grand Cherokee Forum 6 05-01-2005 06:30 AM
RB1 Navigation DVD Modification jfwsouth WJ Grand Cherokee Forum 3 06-08-2004 07:39 PM
exhaust modification shaneda1pain ZJ Grand Cherokee Forum 2 09-25-2003 12:41 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome