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post #76 of 124 Old 08-14-2012, 09:34 PM
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I have a Dodge ram 1500 5.2L V8 4x4 and it already has 145K miles on it. I use it as a plow truck so it gets bashed hard, I also don't drive it nicely. I've gone through 2 clutches(one was my mothers fault...) But the NV3500 is still running good.


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post #77 of 124 Old 08-15-2012, 11:13 AM
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I have a Dodge ram 1500 5.2L V8 4x4 and it already has 145K miles on it. I use it as a plow truck so it gets bashed hard, I also don't drive it nicely. I've gone through 2 clutches(one was my mothers fault...) But the NV3500 is still running good.
theres a guy on dakota durango forum that didnt blow his up until he he 500 lbft of torque, everyone on there agreed with him, most people find that to be the limit

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post #78 of 124 Old 08-15-2012, 04:31 PM Thread Starter
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theres a guy on dakota durango forum that didnt blow his up until he he 500 lbft of torque, everyone on there agreed with him, most people find that to be the limit
Same forum i see them regularly blow then up with stock 360 swaps.

'97 zj 5.2, some stuff, some other suff, and some things that even work sometimes.

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post #79 of 124 Old 08-15-2012, 08:49 PM
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this guy says there are different strength nv35xx trans'

http://www.dakota-durango.com/forum/...04&postcount=5

hes just a few who have had good luck with the 3500


http://www.dakota-durango.com/forum/...46&postcount=9
http://www.dakota-durango.com/forum/...4&postcount=18
http://www.dakota-durango.com/forum/...4&postcount=21

anyone can kill any trans if they dont know how to treat it, id say 90% of the people that say they can drive a manual and do every day, do it incorrectly, and using the engine to brake without double clutching with burn through the syncos quicker than anything

im sorry you had problems with yours rat, didnt you say you had pilot bearing problems? if that pilot bearing isnt perfect the imput bearing wont last to long

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The pilot was trashed, but the input bearing was fine web i went through all the parts from the failed trans.
The synchros were in good shape too.
Stripped the input gear and counter shaft, which is a common failure.

'97 zj 5.2, some stuff, some other suff, and some things that even work sometimes.

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post #81 of 124 Old 11-11-2012, 01:27 PM
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hi looking on the web trying to find a 5 spd for the zj i found thr ax 15 "terminator"

waht do you think about?

for street use? i mean some launches...
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hi looking on the web trying to find a 5 spd for the zj i found thr ax 15 "terminator"

waht do you think about?

for street use? i mean some launches...
Its in v8 Toyota pickups it's a good transmission. But still truck ratios, not something friendly to drag racing. It'll hold up though.

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understood thanks, i think that maybe this can be the chioice...
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Any idea on what donor vehicles have the desirable flexplate?
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a flexplate is for an automatic, flywheels are for manuals,

if you have a 5.2, get a flywheel from a manual trans dakota or ram with a 5.2
if you have a 5.9, get a flywheel from a manual trans ram with a 5.9

the 5.2 and 5.9 have different ballence methods requiring weights on the flywheel or not, so you must get one for the matching engine

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Its in v8 Toyota pickups it's a good transmission. But still truck ratios, not something friendly to drag racing. It'll hold up though.
Termi AX-15 with 3.08s in the axles would be ok for street gearing and would cruise about 100 rpm lower at 60 than a stock 44/46RE / 3.73 combo. It's my plan for when my 46RE eventually gets tired of life.
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a flexplate is for an automatic, flywheels are for manuals,

if you have a 5.2, get a flywheel from a manual trans dakota or ram with a 5.2
if you have a 5.9, get a flywheel from a manual trans ram with a 5.9

the 5.2 and 5.9 have different ballence methods requiring weights on the flywheel or not, so you must get one for the matching engine
Lol, im learning as i go!

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Termi AX-15 with 3.08s in the axles would be ok for street gearing and would cruise about 100 rpm lower at 60 than a stock 44/46RE / 3.73 combo. It's my plan for when my 46RE eventually gets tired of life.
The motor doesn't like running that low. It will lug and you'll get worse economy.

'97 zj 5.2, some stuff, some other suff, and some things that even work sometimes.

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The motor doesn't like running that low. It will lug and you'll get worse economy.
Hmm... It would put the revs the same as a stock 5 speed 4.0, about 1660 at 60 mph. I currently turn 1750 and it pulls up 9% grades in OD just fine, which tells me it's probably a bit over-geared for the motor, especially considering that making an identical highway run, at the same speed on the same day in a 4.0 WJ with 3.73s and the same size tires, yields 4 - 5 mpg better than I get.

I picked up a solid 1 mpg on the highway after the cam (and pulls harder at 1100 rpm than it did stock). It's happy being lugged down to 850 rpm with the manual lockup switch, although it's not very efficient below 1200 or so, as I get better mpg at 45 than at 40.

Considering how tall GM gears some of their cars (Vettes in particular), where some of them are turning between 1500 - 1600 rpm at 70 mph, I don't think turning 1660 at 60 mph (1940 at 70 mph) is tall enough to lug the motor. Currently, I spin 2050 at 70 mph.
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Hmm... It would put the revs the same as a stock 5 speed 4.0, about 1660 at 60 mph. I currently turn 1750 and it pulls up 9% grades in OD just fine, which tells me it's probably a bit over-geared for the motor, especially considering that making an identical highway run, at the same speed on the same day in a 4.0 WJ with 3.73s and the same size tires, yields 4 - 5 mpg better than I get.

I picked up a solid 1 mpg on the highway after the cam (and pulls harder at 1100 rpm than it did stock). It's happy being lugged down to 850 rpm with the manual lockup switch, although it's not very efficient below 1200 or so, as I get better mpg at 45 than at 40.

Considering how tall GM gears some of their cars (Vettes in particular), where some of them are turning between 1500 - 1600 rpm at 70 mph, I don't think turning 1660 at 60 mph (1940 at 70 mph) is tall enough to lug the motor. Currently, I spin 2050 at 70 mph.
don't compare to a gm or other style vehicle, completely different motor and completely different aerodynamics dictating different power level needs at different speeds.

at 60 these motors do best above 2000rpm. both the v8 and the i6. they're really undergeared from the factory and hate being lugged down.

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