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Unread 10-25-2013, 05:23 PM   #8896
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lol 10 seconds

on snow yeah !
It better snow here in ks this year and snow good so I can laugh at those silly economy cars

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Unread 10-25-2013, 06:15 PM   #8897
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The JK and WK2. That's what makes me think they know what they're doing. I don't know if you realize, but both will outwheel a ZJ stock-for-stock, while offering the same or greater comfort, fuel economy, and performance.

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someone needs to find a rental WK2 and wheel it against a ZJ, both stock. I would be surprised if the WK2 performed any better
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Unread 10-25-2013, 06:42 PM   #8898
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put 2 solid axles under it and some moss green paint then i wouldnt have many gripes



but this is one only a mother would love
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Unread 10-25-2013, 06:43 PM   #8899
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someone needs to find a rental WK2 and wheel it against a ZJ, both stock. I would be surprised if the WK2 performed any better
I can guarantee the WK2 would do better. Without pulling the swaybar on a ZJ, it doesn't have much more articulation than the WK2, only the WK2 has more power and can do a lot more with a wheel in the air, whereas the ZJ doesn't even have a method to limit wheel slip. And with Quadra-lift, the WK2 has more ground clearance too.

Plus, 2 more inches of rated fording depth. Just saying.

Here's a novel concept for you: technology improves performance.


My ZJ's lifted and it couldn't do that if I tried. I'd just spin opposite tires and get hung up on my front diff.
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Unread 10-25-2013, 06:54 PM   #8900
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I can guarantee the WK2 would do better. Without pulling the swaybar on a ZJ, it doesn't have much more articulation than the WK2, only the WK2 has more power and can do a lot more with a wheel in the air, whereas the ZJ doesn't even have a method to limit wheel slip. And with Quadra-lift, the WK2 has more ground clearance too.Plus, 2 more inches of rated fording depth. Just saying.Here's a novel concept for you: technology improves performance.My ZJ's lifted and it couldn't do that if I tried. I'd just spin opposite tires and get hung up on my front diff.
so to compare we cant have lockers discos or a tcase that locks ?

that not fair
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Unread 10-25-2013, 08:32 PM   #8901
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I can guarantee the WK2 would do better. Without pulling the swaybar on a ZJ, it doesn't have much more articulation than the WK2, only the WK2 has more power and can do a lot more with a wheel in the air, whereas the ZJ doesn't even have a method to limit wheel slip. And with Quadra-lift, the WK2 has more ground clearance too.

Plus, 2 more inches of rated fording depth. Just saying.

Here's a novel concept for you: technology improves performance.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxqL320GSZ0

My ZJ's lifted and it couldn't do that if I tried. I'd just spin opposite tires and get hung up on my front diff.
You need to off road more, I bet your ZJ could do that but not as smoothly as the WK2 trail hawk. I also bet my stock T4R could run that trail.
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Unread 10-25-2013, 08:37 PM   #8902
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A video for you, though

My ZJ's lifted and it couldn't do that if I tried. I'd just spin opposite tires and get hung up on my front diff.
all i have to say is that guy has some serious nuts taking a $40k+ SUV up something like that
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Unread 10-25-2013, 08:41 PM   #8903
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all i have to say is that guy has some serious nuts taking a $40k+ SUV up something like that
It's a trail hawk I'd be upset if he didn't take it up something like that
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Unread 10-26-2013, 12:28 AM   #8904
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It's a trail hawk I'd be upset if he didn't take it up something like that
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all i have to say is that guy has some serious nuts taking a $40k+ SUV up something like that
He's Australian. They don't even sell the WK2 as 2WD there. Only 4WD. They take 4-wheeling seriously.
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You need to off road more, I bet your ZJ could do that but not as smoothly as the WK2 trail hawk. I also bet my stock T4R could run that trail.
My ZJ would hang up a differential and lose traction on opposite wheels about halfway up and then I'd be stuck. That brake-lock differential is pretty neat stuff.
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so to compare we cant have lockers discos or a tcase that locks ?

that not fair
The WK2 doesn't have lockers, doesn't have a disconnecting sway bar, and doesn't have a locking t-case. The ZJ does have a locking t-case, so use it to your advantage. Unless you have a V8. Then it sucks for you.
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Unread 10-26-2013, 12:34 AM   #8905
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He's Australian. They don't even sell the WK2 as 2WD there. Only 4WD. They take 4-wheeling seriously.

My ZJ would hang up a differential and lose traction on opposite wheels about halfway up and then I'd be stuck. That brake-lock differential is pretty neat stuff.


The WK2 doesn't have lockers, doesn't have a disconnecting sway bar, and doesn't have a locking t-case. The ZJ does have a locking t-case, so use it to your advantage. Unless you have a V8. Then it sucks for you.
96+ 249s do lock in 4lo (and even an early one still has a very strong limited slip). Some ZJs have rear limited slips. Plus, it's not very hard to disconnect the swaybar, even without discos. You'd be surprised how well a ZJ could get up that. I was certainly impressed by some of the things mine got through the first time I wheeled it.
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Unread 10-26-2013, 12:37 AM   #8906
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well **** on me for not flying the rice flag

b.l. is close to lock kinda not really but kinda

and my 249 v8 limited slip rear combo locks center

they destroy all who oppose at the lights when theres fluffy stuff and that dont suck at all
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Unread 10-26-2013, 01:34 AM   #8907
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well **** on me for not flying the rice flag

b.l. is close to lock kinda not really but kinda

and my 249 v8 limited slip rear combo locks center

they destroy all who oppose at the lights when theres fluffy stuff and that dont suck at all
Have you actually raced someone at a light? How do you always win? Are you sure you have a zj? If so is it on a bottle? You can come race the STIs and civics and camaros that race here after 11. There's also a badass eclipse gtx here that will blow your doors off. Unno how they race lights in Iowa but I think a lot of people are ****ty at it or not actually racing because I ticket isn't worth racing a brick on wheels
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Unread 10-26-2013, 02:01 AM   #8908
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Have you actually raced someone at a light? How do you always win? Are you sure you have a zj? If so is it on a bottle? You can come race the STIs and civics and camaros that race here after 11. There's also a badass eclipse gtx here that will blow your doors off. Unno how they race lights in Iowa but I think a lot of people are ****ty at it or not actually racing because I ticket isn't worth racing a brick on wheels
uhhhh yeah ill say it

a zj like described would annihilate a camaro on snow

and its not a brick you ...
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Unread 10-26-2013, 02:13 AM   #8909
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uhhhh yeah ill say it

a zj like described would annihilate a camaro on snow

and its not a brick you ...
Not if the guy knew how to drive in snow. We talking feet or a couple inches on a road
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Unread 10-26-2013, 02:37 AM   #8910
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well there seems to be a lot of self deprecating zj owners on here

you guys need some pride
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