It's not owning an XJ. It's being an XJ enthusiast.
Commenting on your signature as well, the Grand Cherokee was designed as an upgraded version of a Cherokee, yes. That doesn't mean that they're better in all aspects. The Grand Cherokee was a new evolution of the Cherokee with a new body and an amenities. They were Jeeps from the same decade, and aren't really that different when you look at the broad picture.
Yeah, enthusiast. These "enthusiasts" come in the ZJ brand too. Thinking that they are better than every other type of Jeep. Well, they aren't. ZJ have their downfalls just like every other Jeep. I think it's time to be adults and move on from this f****** XJ vs. ZJ crap. And for the record, I have driven both vehicles for a good amount of time, and I am not biased towards either. I don't really have a preference either which way, because I love driving them both.
1998 ZJ 4.0 Stock 225/75R15 General Grabber AT2
Taurus fans are a lot more readily available. You have better odds of finding a 3.8L Taurus in a junk yard than you do a Thunderbird/Cougar/Mark VII. Also, if you want to go brand new and get an aftermarket Taurus fan, they're a lot cheaper than the others. The other fan might be a little better, but the Taurus fan is still one of the best e-fans out there for a lot of applications, not just Jeeps. A bunch of people with muscle cars run them, too. "Performance" aftermarket e-fans that have the same flow as a Taurus fan run over $300 new.
On topic... You know you drive a ZJ when you see a body lift and laugh.
The lightest 2wd 4-cylinder manual XJ weighs 3300lbs, versus the lightest 6-cylinder ZJ 2WD at 3500lbs. A fully-equipped V8 ZJ 4WD weighs 3900lbs, and adding the weight of an automatic transmission, transfer case, driveshaft, and axle, to that of an XJ, plus the weight difference of the 4.0 vs the 2.5, you're looking at at least 3700lbs by my calculations. And even then, the ZJ has a heavier engine, tranny, and t-case. Similarly-equipped XJs and ZJs have similar weights.
I'll give you nimbler, but XJs aren't much lighter. They're just smaller and squarer. All the XJ has over the ZJ is its aftermarket and cheapness. Even as cheap as ZJs are, XJs are often cheaper.
You know you drive a ZJ when lacking aftermarket can take a backseat to every other great thing about the Jeep.
Holy S***! My build sheet says my niner weighs 5500 lbs... Now I know there's no way it weighs THAT much, but 3900? That sounds a little low even... I would guess somewhere in the range of 4300 would sound more reasonable.
I know that everybody on this thread is going to hate this but I got a xj
Originally Posted by znm1994
How would I go about the efan swap?
take off the clutch fan , i used some 1/4'' bolts from the hardware store in the w/p pulley holes and a rental tool from auto zone and wire a few good relays and a 3 way switch install the new fan and thats it . there are other ways that are more expensive and you wont need to manually turn it off and on but this is the cheapest way and how i did mine
Originally Posted by MTBlue
Holy S***! My build sheet says my niner weighs 5500 lbs...
i think you were looking at how much it can hold gross stock now how much it weighs
zj orvis 5.2 4'' intake/3 glasspacs/t-bird e fan
wj ltd 4.7 k&n intake/thrush muffler
When you stop to think, the good parts left on it are worth more than you paid for it, and you have had no car payment for 2 years, yet you baby it like a new car when driving around town, and off road think, let's try this new way!
1996 ZJ - That 2nd Oxygen sensor, yeah some serious butt connectors and heat shrink there, how is that for off road modification! - Still stock.