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Unread 07-06-2013, 07:40 PM   #7996
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You know you drive a ZJ when XJ owners are on your case for knowing your Jeep is simply better than their Jeep.

Also, when
makes you laugh.

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Unread 07-06-2013, 07:45 PM   #7997
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You know you drive a ZJ when XJ owners are on your case for knowing your Jeep is simply better than their Jeep.

Also, when this makes you laugh.
show me the carfax!
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Unread 07-06-2013, 07:47 PM   #7998
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When the driver window is open and you run the wipers to get the water off and the forward part of the door gets soaked

Dana 35c behind a 242, behind an AW-4, behind a 4.0L Inline Six sitting over a Dana 30, all turning stock 215/75/15 tires and moving a 93 Grand Cherokee to places your truck only dreams of.
Did this in a mud hole! Now my door panels have mud spots all over them!!
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Unread 07-06-2013, 08:23 PM   #7999
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You know you drive a ZJ when XJ owners are on your case for knowing your Jeep is simply better than their Jeep.

Also, when this makes you laugh.
I wonder why the check engine light was on.
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Unread 07-06-2013, 08:51 PM   #8000
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Everyone doesn't believe that ZJs (5.2s) can beat most vehicles off the line. I've beat an eclipse GT...don't ride my *** then flip me off. I let em see nothing but tail lights.
Haha all the Time. All the time. So on topic when you throw a new transfer case in after blowing the old one into two pieces and she's been running better than ever.....
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Unread 07-06-2013, 11:30 PM   #8001
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When you pull out the drive in your Father in Laws Hemi Magnum and as you look in the rear view your ZJ is flipping you off!!
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Unread 07-07-2013, 06:26 AM   #8002
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The WK2 certainly does not handle worse than the ZJ. ZJs may have more suspension travel, but the damn beam axle weighs so much and is guided by a primitive 5-link suspension with a recirculating-ball steering system, it can't comprehend handling at all. Too much suspension float, too little steering feedback. I got to drive a WK2 a couple months ago, the thing not only rode nicer, but had more steering feedback and more controlled roll, as well as increased grip. It's no nimble sports car, but to say it handles worse than the ZJ because it's heavier is false. The suspension design accounts for the heavier weight far better than the ZJ's beam axles
The WK2 does do a much better job of feeling like it handles well. It might be more responsive, but it's certainly not better in terms of outright grip (on smooth pavement, the solid axles lose grip fast in the rough stuff) or ability to get through a slalom, etc. quickly.

Let's look at some numbers:

The ZJ came with 225s under it for tires, usually in the form of Goodyear Wranglers, which were pretty sucky for grip.

The WK2 comes with 265s under it in the form of Michelin Latitude Tours, which are definitely better tires.

Yet despite all that extra tire under the WK2, they pull an identical 0.74g on a skidpad (WJ: 0.76g stock, WK: 0.72g stock). An early Motortrend test of a 93 ZJ pulled 0.75g out of it.

In a slalom, the WK2 is about 1 mph faster according to the fastest test I've found (although I've seen a couple that tested a little slower than a ZJ), most likely due to the testers pushing it right up to the stability control. However, that could easily be changed by adding a little more caster to the ZJ (30 second adjustment, adds more front end grip).

Also, despite its puny brakes, the ZJ does 60-0 faster than the WK2 (126 ft vs 131 ft).

The WK2 is definitely more aerodynamic though.
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Unread 07-07-2013, 09:40 AM   #8003
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When you pull out the drive in your Father in Laws Hemi Magnum and as you look in the rear view your ZJ is flipping you off!!
Everytime I drive the 13 Ram 5.7, my ZJ flips me off.
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Unread 07-07-2013, 09:59 AM   #8004
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When the driver window is open and you run the wipers to get the water off and the forward part of the door gets soaked

Dana 35c behind a 242, behind an AW-4, behind a 4.0L Inline Six sitting over a Dana 30, all turning stock 215/75/15 tires and moving a 93 Grand Cherokee to places your truck only dreams of.
dude...all the time...especially when it rains and I'm making a right turn...soo much water ha
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Unread 07-07-2013, 10:08 AM   #8005
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You know you drive a ZJ when XJ owners are on your case for knowing your Jeep is simply better than their Jeep.

Also, when Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7Umdyq6pBY&feature=share makes you laugh.
they don't die!! I just gained so much more respect for my ZJ lol...
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Unread 07-07-2013, 03:12 PM   #8006
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You know you drive a ZJ when you put rocks in the motor and it still runs.
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Unread 07-07-2013, 05:43 PM   #8007
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You know you drive a ZJ when you put rocks in the motor and it still runs.
atleast I know if I need to do an emergency oil change (if there even is such a thing..) me and my buddies can just piss in the darn thing and I'm good to go
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Unread 07-07-2013, 10:20 PM   #8008
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When the first thing you check on any zj you park next to is how far the rocker panel rust is progressing
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Unread 07-08-2013, 05:53 AM   #8009
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When the junkyard knows you by name

When the junkyard tells you where the "new" zj is

When you break or damage the same part so many times the junkyard runs out
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Unread 07-08-2013, 07:08 PM   #8010
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Had a guy come in where I work...had a XJ on 33s. I was telling him how I was lifting my ZJ in a month or so....he says "don't get a body lift, they tip over too easy now." I responded...if you would've bought your XJ and would've built it, you'd gladly know you cant put body lifts on a unibody frame! Then he was telling me how quick his 300 straight 6 is...I raced it this night in my 01 ram 1500 5.9L (it's built on 35s)...put him to shame. He couldn't handle a V8 even in a ZJ. I'm starting to think he didn't even have a 300 straight 6...
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