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Unread 07-05-2013, 12:01 AM   #7951
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So today, I realized something that blew my mind. Jeep Patriots are real jeeps! they have similar ground clearance to our Grands when they're stock!
Grand Cherokee ground clearance: 8.2 in.
Jeep Patriot ground clearance: 8.1 in.

My hope in Jeep has been restored.

OT. When you avoid driving your zj, as much as you possibly can. 'Cause it made you a poor person and you can't afford to drive it.
What does ground clearance have to do with being a Jeep? Patriots are still weak willed cross overs that are usually FWD with a 2.4l engine.

ZJ factory ground clearence sucks. They need at least a 3" lift to look nice and have the capability to back it up.

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Unread 07-05-2013, 12:30 AM   #7952
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wicked articulation yo



looks like a baby hummer trying to flex there
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Unread 07-05-2013, 12:50 AM   #7953
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wicked articulation yo



looks like a baby hummer trying to flex there
thats IS for ya
i have a feeling that little hook coming out of the bumper gets used alot.
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Unread 07-05-2013, 01:25 AM   #7954
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They certainly won't do as well in terms of rock crawling and other stuff that requires tons of flex, etc. However, they're not totally street bound. They do effectively have less clearance though. Keep in mind, the lowest point on a ZJ is the diffs. Other stuff is all a couple inches higher. On the Patriot, a lot of stuff sits down at the lowest point.
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Unread 07-05-2013, 05:15 AM   #7955
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wicked articulation yo

looks like a baby hummer trying to flex there
Hummer would still flex better, H1, 2 or 3
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Unread 07-05-2013, 05:56 AM   #7956
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Hummer would still flex better, H1, 2 or 3


yeah , your right
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Unread 07-05-2013, 06:09 AM   #7957
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yeah , your right
Guarantee you there is more down travel and up travel going on in this picture than in the picture of the Patriot. That ledge looks almost as tall as the tire and that's a 37" tire.
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Unread 07-05-2013, 06:26 AM   #7958
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Guarantee you there is more down travel and up travel going on in this picture than in the picture of the Patriot. That ledge looks almost as tall as the tire and that's a 37" tire.
thats why i agree'd with you bro still looks like the patriot though
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Unread 07-05-2013, 06:30 AM   #7959
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thats why i agree'd with you bro still looks like the patriot though
I thought the rolleyes smiley was being sarcastic. I respect every vehicle that is off road capable even fake Jeeps like the Patriot and JK Wrangler....
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Unread 07-05-2013, 09:50 AM   #7960
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What does ground clearance have to do with being a Jeep? Patriots are still weak willed cross overs that are usually FWD with a 2.4l engine.
Hey ground clearance is really important! And im not talking about any 2wd version, any 2wd jeep isnt a real jeep. And engine size doesnt matter, it still has enough power.
The patriots biggest problem for sure is the suspension though.

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They certainly won't do as well in terms of rock crawling and other stuff that requires tons of flex, etc. However, they're not totally street bound. They do effectively have less clearance though. Keep in mind, the lowest point on a ZJ is the diffs. Other stuff is all a couple inches higher. On the Patriot, a lot of stuff sits down at the lowest point.
Oh right, i actually didn't think about that. Hahah

Oh well i think theres still hope. Maybe. Either way i'll jus stick with my Zj

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Unread 07-05-2013, 10:14 AM   #7961
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Honestly, on a rough dirt road or mild, faster trails, the Patriot would probably out-do a ZJ, if nothing else, due to the much smoother ride.
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Unread 07-05-2013, 10:29 AM   #7962
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Honestly, on a rough dirt road or mild, faster trails, the Patriot would probably out-do a ZJ, if nothing else, due to the much smoother ride.
i think the only place the patriot has a ZJ beat is fuel economy
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Unread 07-05-2013, 10:38 AM   #7963
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Honestly, on a rough dirt road or mild, faster trails, the Patriot would probably out-do a ZJ, if nothing else, due to the much smoother ride.
i agree with this , BUT i still think the zj is the best all around jeep
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Unread 07-05-2013, 11:00 AM   #7964
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Honestly, on a rough dirt road or mild, faster trails, the Patriot would probably out-do a ZJ, if nothing else, due to the much smoother ride.
Being more comfortable doesnt mean more capable. That patriot would break next to a ZJ
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Unread 07-05-2013, 11:05 AM   #7965
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Being more comfortable doesnt mean more capable. That patriot would break next to a ZJ
think high speed built type rig

the indy susp would do well

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