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Unread 03-17-2013, 10:56 AM   #6181
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Unread 03-17-2013, 11:11 AM   #6182
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I used to think the ZJs engine bay was tight with the v8, then I worked on a Hyundai Tiburon in auto shop. The entire passenger side front suspension has to be disassembled to replace the alternator.
Had to pull the axle the do the alternator in a ford escape
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Unread 03-17-2013, 11:38 AM   #6183
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If you had ever spent all of five minutes working on a full size Chevrolet van, you wouldn't have one bad thing to say about the engine bay in a Zj. The one we used to had must've had something like a 16" hood.
This one takes the cake. I've worked on some stupid cars in my past
  • 2002 VW Bug--Wheels and fenders have to come off to get at the radiator
  • 2001 Mini Cooper--PS Pump... This one still gives me nightmares
  • 2001 Hyundai Elantra--Tried to eat me alive. I have scars up to my elbows from replacing the timing chain.
  • 1999 Nissan Maxima--To remove the alternator, the car has to be up in the air, front wheel removed, wheel wells removed, AC compressor totally removed, PS pump relocated
  • 2009 Chevy 2500 Van--**** that van. There's a V8 somewhere under there...



So... You know you own a ZJ when you can appreciate just how spacious the engine bay is. It's not quite like my old truck where I could sit on the bumper, put both feet on the frame rails, and just work on the 318 all day long, but it's really not that bad.
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Unread 03-17-2013, 11:47 AM   #6184
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Don't the V8's have more pulley clearance than the I6?
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Unread 03-17-2013, 11:52 AM   #6185
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No, it was rear-ended. We had to cut the downpipes because there's no getting at the bolts that connect them to the manifolds, normally, and the bolts were rusted shut anyway. The downpipes kept catching on the UCA mounts and passenger side motor mount. The 4.0 would have come out with the whole exhaust still attached, I reckon.

Problem with the V8 is it was added as an afterthought. It was designed for a truck big enough that you can sit in the engine bay and change the spark plugs, not a midsize SUV, and that fact shows. Hell, it was such an afterthought, they didn't even have production sorted when the ZJ launched in late '92. It wasn't until, I wanna say, February '93 when they started rolling off the line with V8s.

The ZJ was designed around the 4.0 platform and it shows. It may not be as powerful or torquey as the V8, but it fits better, and a forced induction L6 is less passe than a blown V8.
When a vehicle lands on the dealership lot has nothing to do with how ready they are. It's largely to do with assembly line capacities. Hell, we just started receiving 3.6 rams a few weeks ago. And let me tell you, that wasn't an afterthought
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Unread 03-17-2013, 12:54 PM   #6186
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Don't the V8's have more pulley clearance than the I6?
I believe so
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Unread 03-17-2013, 01:47 PM   #6187
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Unread 03-17-2013, 02:34 PM   #6188
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Unread 03-17-2013, 03:28 PM   #6189
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The ZJ was designed around the 4.0 platform and it shows. It may not be as powerful or torquey as the V8, but it fits better, and a forced induction L6 is less passe than a blown V8.
Well, first of all, by forced induction I assume you mean a turbo, and a turbo is just a different kind of supercharger.

Secondly, most "passe" blown V8s will blow the doors off of those "unique" turbo L6s. But hey, do whatever makes you happy...
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Unread 03-17-2013, 03:32 PM   #6190
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Well, first of all, by forced induction I assume you mean a turbo, and a turbo is just a different kind of supercharger.

Secondly, most "passe" blown V8s will blow the doors off of those "unique" turbo L6. But hey, do whatever makes you happy...
I think his point was the unibody was never built to handle the power of a blown V8. It'd be within its limits with a turbo I6
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Unread 03-17-2013, 03:34 PM   #6191
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I think his point was the unibody was never built to handle the power of a blown V8. It'd be within its limits with a turbo I6
Yeah it will defiantly hold up to a blown v8.its been done so many times that if there were a problem that would happen. It would have already.
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Unread 03-17-2013, 03:34 PM   #6192
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Well, first of all, by forced induction I assume you mean a turbo, and a turbo is just a different kind of supercharger.

Secondly, most "passe" blown V8s will blow the doors off of those "unique" turbo L6s. But hey, do whatever makes you happy...
his whole argument is that there's more room in a ZJ to turbo a 4.0 then to supercharge a 5.2/5.9
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Unread 03-17-2013, 03:35 PM   #6193
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I think his point was the unibody was never built to handle the power of a blown V8. It'd be within its limits with a turbo I6
Which is bull****. The ZJ can handle power perfectly fine.

But I think I get what you're saying.
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Unread 03-17-2013, 03:37 PM   #6194
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Yeah it will defiantly hold up to a blown v8.
A 5.9 might handle, those bodys got some reinforcement. But like mine, which came with a 4.0, the body strength got some cost cuts.
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Unread 03-17-2013, 03:38 PM   #6195
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A 5.9 might handle, those bodys got some reinforcement. But like mine, which came with a 4.0, the body strength got some cost cuts.
Uh, no. The bodies are identical, there was no extra reinforcement, not even different suspension on the 5.9.
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