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Unread 03-09-2013, 12:18 AM   #6016
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I did 105-ish in the ZJ once when it had death wobble, bad tires, old springs, and a blown muffler. Man that was scary. Didn't take too much to get it there, though, what with the blown muffler. It was just loud was all.

For oil, I use 5 quarts of 10W40 conventional, 1 quart of ATF+4 (synthetic 10W40 + detergents) and Wix filters. Works great, runs smooth and quiet. I change my oil fairly frequently, too. Probably around every 2500-3000 miles. I don't mind the expense that often if it keeps the engine happy. I just wish it'd keep the electronics happy.

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Unread 03-09-2013, 02:08 AM   #6017
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Same color as mine
Which one lol
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Unread 03-09-2013, 02:13 AM   #6018
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Green lol
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Unread 03-09-2013, 09:41 AM   #6019
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For oil, I use 5 quarts of 10W40 conventional, 1 quart of ATF+4 (synthetic 10W40 + detergents) and Wix filters. Works great, runs smooth and quiet. I change my oil fairly frequently, too. Probably around every 2500-3000 miles. I don't mind the expense that often if it keeps the engine happy. I just wish it'd keep the electronics happy.
I wouldn't run ATF in the engine full time. The whole detergents thing is a myth from the 50s and 60s when engine oil had a lot less detergents than it does now and ATF had a lot more than it does now. Also, ATF's additive package isn't quite designed to handle combustion byproducts, although with changes that frequent, it's probably not an issue. In addition, ATF+4 is around a 5W-30 or a little lighter in viscosity.

Personally, I've been running Rotella T6 5W-40 and changing every 6k (did an analysis a while ago to confirm that I was good at that mileage, and I'll probably do another this summer). I've been doing the same, but changing at 5k in my mom's 4.0 WJ (hers sees more short trips than mine).
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Unread 03-09-2013, 11:56 AM   #6020
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When you are looking at a nice orvis. And you catch the guy driving it looking at yours and you just give each other a thumbs up.
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Unread 03-09-2013, 12:38 PM   #6021
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I wouldn't run ATF in the engine full time. The whole detergents thing is a myth from the 50s and 60s when engine oil had a lot less detergents than it does now and ATF had a lot more than it does now. Also, ATF's additive package isn't quite designed to handle combustion byproducts, although with changes that frequent, it's probably not an issue. In addition, ATF+4 is around a 5W-30 or a little lighter in viscosity.

Personally, I've been running Rotella T6 5W-40 and changing every 6k (did an analysis a while ago to confirm that I was good at that mileage, and I'll probably do another this summer). I've been doing the same, but changing at 5k in my mom's 4.0 WJ (hers sees more short trips than mine).
Well I haven't noticed any problems, and it only tacks $2 to the cost of my oil changes. What with the high temperatures here, I've noticed 10-40 runs better in high mileage engines than 5-30 and you can't get conventional 5-40, at least not here. Synthetic has different fluid properties than conventional, which has caused me to have blowby problems in the past, so I don't use it unless it's specifically called for, or the engine is low mileage. My first oil change was 10-30 in the Jeep, but it definitely runs better on 10-40.

With that said, I haven't looked up ATF+4's viscosity but I know it mixes with conventional. As well, I think Dexron is 10-30 or so, and I used to use that in oil changes before I got the Jeep. When I got the Jeep, I just changed to ATF+4 to keep it around in case the tranny needed some.

I don't know what my plans for this six are, though. I've decided I'm gonna keep it, but the question is, do I stroke it or run forced induction? And if I go with a blower, do I go turbo or super?

The questions that keep a straight six guy up at night.
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Unread 03-09-2013, 03:44 PM   #6022
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If you boost it, I'd go turbo, personally.
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Unread 03-09-2013, 03:54 PM   #6023
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when you spend 2 hours washing the outside/undercarriage, then spend 40 minutes more soaping it and rinsing it, and drying it. Lol then you end up doing the interior right into dark, or start it the next day.
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Unread 03-09-2013, 04:01 PM   #6024
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when you spend 2 hours washing the outside/undercarriage, then spend 40 minutes more soaping it and rinsing it, and drying it. Lol then you end up doing the interior right into dark, or start it the next day.
Ouch I'm a pro detailer and can do a really good job in half that time lol.
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Unread 03-09-2013, 04:51 PM   #6025
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Come do my jeep! Lmao I could do it quicker but i get carried away and start cleaning different compartments
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Unread 03-09-2013, 05:12 PM   #6026
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Come do my jeep! Lmao I could do it quicker but i get carried away and start cleaning different compartments
Haha, that always happens with me too. "Okay, today I'll clean my rear diff cover and paint it." While I do that...I end up cleaning my DS and the axle tubes...
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Unread 03-09-2013, 06:31 PM   #6027
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... when you see guys talking about how fast their rigs go on the street and you think to yourself "I don't care how fast mine goes. I'd rather be in 4LO anyway"
x2!!
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Unread 03-09-2013, 06:36 PM   #6028
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I did 100 in my zj once. That scared the **** out of me and never did it again. That was stock height too
i hit 106 on the beltway around here. felt like all of the nuts and bolts were gonna come loose from all the vibration though. but hearing the engine rush up into over drive was TOTALLY worth it. 4.0
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Unread 03-09-2013, 06:45 PM   #6029
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i hit 106 on the beltway around here. felt like all of the nuts and bolts were gonna come loose from all the vibration though. but hearing the engine rush up into over drive was TOTALLY worth it. 4.0
My ****ing zj pissing me off this damn oil filter adapter bolt is err
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Unread 03-09-2013, 06:49 PM   #6030
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When you wake up with a new puddle of fluid in the driveway every 3 months
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