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post #1666 of 10778 Old 05-24-2012, 07:54 PM
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you get a ton of torque outta the I6, more than you do outta the V8. plus the I6 is indestructible and gets better mpg than the V8. Any other argument is invalid
You get a ton of low end torque. V8 makes more torque at higher rpm. I6 is not indestructible, just dropped mine in the scrap iron tub because it had a hole in the block from a rod bolt coming out, they can and do destruct. I have a lot of arguments for v8s but I'll leave it with both the 4.0 and 318 have there place, and are both great engines.


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post #1667 of 10778 Old 05-24-2012, 07:58 PM
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You get a ton of low end torque. V8 makes more torque at higher rpm. I6 is not indestructible, just dropped mine in the scrap iron tub because it had a hole in the block from a rod bolt coming out, they can and do destruct. I have a lot of arguments for v8s but I'll leave it with both the 4.0 and 318 have there place, and are both great engines.
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Now if they only made a factory ZJ with a 4bt. Now your talking

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post #1669 of 10778 Old 05-24-2012, 08:11 PM
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Now if they only made a factory ZJ with a 4bt. Now your talking
Didn't they sell diesel versions overseas?

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post #1670 of 10778 Old 05-24-2012, 08:27 PM
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Didn't they sell diesel versions overseas?
Yes they did. Looked for one for a while. Didn't get that great of mpg.

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Yes they did. Looked for one for a while. Didn't get that great of mpg.
Wish mine wasn't a DD, otherwise I'd def do a 4bt swap

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If i had a big wallet I would do it Just cant find a 4bt for under 2,000. I need a Grumman.....

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with a manual trans too

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with a manual trans too
Of course. But same, don't have the wallet for it.

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4 liter, cast-iron engine... Beef up compression, do a bit of custom work here and there, instant diesel. Problem?

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I know I drive a zj when I hit the gas and hear a new clunk.

Theirs a diesel xj for sale at a used car lot in town, but their asking price is Ridiculous
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I6 by design is a torque making machine, v8 is for Hp. Hp=torque x rpm. I6 do not like high rpm, v8s, unless large do not make low rpm torque. This is why 99% of diesels are i6, and 99% of race cars are v8. Personally I can't live without the sound of a v8, but low rpm i6 is better.
depends on the maker my BMW is an I 6 and she loves running about 3 grand now the gas gauge can be used as a fan at that point but its the best of both worlds the torque and power are all there. now at the same time i can go from a stop and just let the clutch out and it won't stall it will just chug along at next to no rpms
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with a manual trans too
I'd kill for a manual trans I know people have done the swap, just have no means or money for such a thing. I believe they made 93's with a manual trans from the factory

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Back on topic, when you have a moment to stop and remember that at one point, your ZJ was brand new and everything worked properly.


and when after reading all of these posts, you are thankful that your headliner is miraculously still in one piece.

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post #1680 of 10778 Old 05-24-2012, 11:25 PM
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depends on the maker my BMW is an I 6 and she loves running about 3 grand now the gas gauge can be used as a fan at that point but its the best of both worlds the torque and power are all there. now at the same time i can go from a stop and just let the clutch out and it won't stall it will just chug along at next to no rpms
3000 is where the cam comes on in many v8s. Gearing has more to do with letting the clutch out at idle, driven many v8s that way as well. Take a 4.0 xj with 3.23 gears and 35s it won't do that, lol. There is a reason sports cars do not run i6s, just like there is a reason the diesel truck world has switched to i6s instead of the 70s and 80s when they all had screaming v8 diesels that sounded amazing but fell on their face with heavy loads. The Duramax I would say is the best of both worlds, but even it spins 3500 on the top, but makes so much torque it still makes huge power at those speeds.

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