Saw this on the YJ forum and thought it might be fun to try here
i have stock tires. but I'll put my zj against a liberty any day on and off road.DeltaForceB85 said:I say both are for men who compensate for their small balls with big tires and real men drive Libertys.
x2!!!Natej_85 said:Maybe its only me but i find it odd you have such a hard-on for your liberty but are still reading zj threads.
Those liberties won't be on the road or trail 15 years after they first hit the road like our zjs are4LBlackMamba said:x2!!!
i don't care what anyone says, I'll protect my zj no matter what
correct. my Laredo is 14 years old. my Fiancé's Laredo is 17 years old. I'll take either of them anywhere, whether mall crawlin or muddin, with 100% confidence. these days, things just aren't built to last anymore. but i guess we'll see when my son grows up and gets his Daddy's ZJ and his friends are jealous. :2thumbsup:tucsonzj said:Those liberties won't be on the road or trail 15 years after they first hit the road like our zjs are
Typical liberty drivers that I've met are afraid to take their jeep offroad. Then again there's alot of jeep owners like that, regardless of model.DeltaForceB85 said:She won't listen though, she'll just roar through the mud in 4 Low like the beautiful machine she is.
I almost bought a wrecked one just for chits and giggles. Wasn't totaled and was cheap.jeepgoonie said:I would love to own a diesel KJ.
Heh... I've washed my KK twice since I owned it.dnuccio said:My uncle is like that, he has a brand new JK. A couple weeks ago he was pulling a trailer full of wood for a camping trip that some of his buddies were going on. He brought the wood out to their campsite then when he hit the pavement again, he pulled over on the side of the highway and wiped the dust off the tires.
I just replaced all of that and then some. Plus im doing the 249-242 swap. The suspension stuff was expensive but it wasnt too bad ti replace by myself so i saved a lot of money. I figured all said and done ive put about 850-900 into fixing all the suspension and cv axles.SchizophrenicMC said:When all your steering components decide they've had it, simultaneously.
Seriously, my balljoints, tie rod ends, stabilizer, and steering box are all shot now. They were all pristine when I bought it. I don't have the money for this. I'm almost thinking about pushing up my planned 5.2 swap to January, instead of August, and just not getting an MR2. Only, I need something lightweight with good aerodynamics and a 4-banger so I can not pay out the nose for gas. Curses!
Would you if you were paying $400 a month payments on your shiny new JK?backyardjeeper said:Typical liberty drivers that I've met are afraid to take their jeep offroad. Then again there's alot of jeep owners like that, regardless of model.
I salute you for being the exception.
I would. Maybe not crazy stuff at Moab but if you've got a 4WD and your scared to get it a lil muddy then bring it back and get a minivan.RazorbackZJ said:Would you if you were paying $400 a month payments on your shiny new JK?
I bought a new tj in 2005 and the first thing I did was remove all the carpet and water seal all the seats. The next thing was to put on 4" of lift and some 33's. Afterwards, I headed to the trails with the doors and top off. When I was done for the day, I couldn't even read the dash guages through all the mud. I only had 1200 miles on it. Needless to say, the new car smell was gone. I buy my jeeps to take wheeling, not to look pretty. I wouldn't buy a truck and never use the bed to haul anything so buying a jeep and never leaving the pavement is pointless. Get a minivan.RazorbackZJ said:Would you if you were paying $400 a month payments on your shiny new JK?
My wife is a 20 something brunette (but ditzy as a blonde) and if I owned it she would drive something like that and LOVE it. And it would go off road. (Not with her driving but I'D take it off road.)SchizophrenicMC said:I respect the rigs, but not the owners. I see a lifted JK with Nittos, flares, and a light bar and I think "Damn, that thing could run my ZJ over on the trails", but then the thing is shiny, has a body-color hard top, and a blonde 20-something girl driving it, and you know it'll never go off road and it makes me sad, and I don't respect that kind of owner.
I agree. I wasn't saying that I wouldn't but that most don't. I see more lifted JKs here than Chevy trucks. I bet I could count 30 in an hour and most of those have milfs driving them.JustinW23 said:I bought a new tj in 2005 and the first thing I did was remove all the carpet and water seal all the seats. The next thing was to put on 4" of lift and some 33's. Afterwards, I headed to the trails with the doors and top off. When I was done for the day, I couldn't even read the dash guages through all the mud. I only had 1200 miles on it. Needless to say, the new car smell was gone. I buy my jeeps to take wheeling, not to look pretty. I wouldn't buy a truck and never use the bed to haul anything so buying a jeep and never leaving the pavement is pointless. Get a minivan.
You are right. It makes me angry that jeep put out a 2wd jk. Then again, jeep makes more money by marketing to the soccer moms.RazorbackZJ said:I agree. I wasn't saying that I wouldn't but that most don't. I see more lifted JKs here than Chevy trucks. I bet I could count 30 in an hour and most of those have milfs driving them.
Yep there's the reason they make any 2wd jeep. Of my non-offroading friends 2 of them own jeeps. 94/97 wranglers, neither take them on the trails. One gave me a hard time how my zj isn't a real jeep, I asked her when the last time hers saw dirt? Followed by let's go to the trail we'll race there and once you catch up we can have some funJustinW23 said:You are right. It makes me angry that jeep put out a 2wd jk. Then again, jeep makes more money by marketing to the soccer moms.