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Unread 06-22-2007, 08:26 AM   #1
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wj winch mount

so i want to find a way to mount a winch up on top of the bumper on my wj but theres no options for us wj owners. there is however an options for zj owners that nobody appears to know about made by DETOURS USA. check it out at www.detoursusa.com . well i called there, because someone in my jeep club gave me the number, hes a got a pre-production piece on his kj. so i spoke to the guy over there at detours, Marc. apparently he says theres not enough interest for him to fab a wj piece. so, if anybody out there with a wj likes this piece and wants to see it go into production fire him off an email. i told him i'd loan him my wj to test fit and fab.

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Unread 06-22-2007, 09:16 AM   #2
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so i want to find a way to mount a winch up on top of the bumper on my wj but theres no options for us wj owners. there is however an options for zj owners that nobody appears to know about made by DETOURS USA. check it out at www.detoursusa.com . well i called there, because someone in my jeep club gave me the number, hes a got a pre-production piece on his kj. so i spoke to the guy over there at detours, Marc. apparently he says theres not enough interest for him to fab a wj piece. so, if anybody out there with a wj likes this piece and wants to see it go into production fire him off an email. i told him i'd loan him my wj to test fit and fab.

you got pictures? or is just thing for the KJ?
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Unread 06-22-2007, 09:22 AM   #3
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you got pictures? or is just thing for the KJ?

<-- dummy didnt clicky click before engaging mouth.. I like it, would be intrested to see what it would cost, where it would end up, and if it would be a problem like the ARBs for the 99s with the cooling system
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Not the first time this has been brought up here.
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The most efficient and smartest choice is to get or have someone create a steel bumper for you.
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One way to get this would be to purchase the ZJ one and then modify the sleves to fit the WJ rails.


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Unread 06-22-2007, 04:56 PM   #7
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The most efficient and smartest choice is to get or have someone create a steel bumper for you.
i dont want a steel bumper. if i wanted a steel bumper i would have bought a steel bumper from arb or trailready. i just wantto mount a winch and i dont want to use a reciever mount either.

adding more weight to the front than i have to doesnt seem too efficient to me.
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just curious, why no winch mount? It makes the winch removeable, so you look almost completely stock without it
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Unread 06-22-2007, 05:25 PM   #9
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just curious, why no winch mount? It makes the winch removeable, so you look almost completely stock without it
because when you use a reciever mount its too low on the front and kills the approach angle. good way to smash it on some rocks or whatever else is below bumper level.

i'd like to keep it up above the bumper.
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because when you use a reciever mount its too low on the front and kills the approach angle. good way to smash it on some rocks or whatever else is below bumper level.

i'd like to keep it up above the bumper.
Last time I checked, they came through the bumper, and mounted above the lowest part of the bumper...no killing the approach angle here...
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Last time I checked, they came through the bumper, and mounted above the lowest part of the bumper...no killing the approach angle here...
last time i checked they came out right under where the license plate mounts. you're telling me something sticking out 10" from the lower part of the bumper isnt going to kill the approach angle? i'd like to see how that works.

anyway, the point of this post wasnt to get anyones opinion on approach angle, or their smartest and most efficient ideas.
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Last time I checked, they came through the bumper, and mounted above the lowest part of the bumper...no killing the approach angle here...

No, they definately kill approach angles when attatched. Most people leave them in while wheeling because it's too cumbersome to take out and put away whenever you need it. Also, sometimes you get stuck close enough to another rock and your left without enough room to put the thing into the reciever.

Too be honest, I might be interested if it came out looking nice and it was affordable; say 300 or less.

A guy named cebby on JU was designing a winch mount for behind the front bumper. Like the AEV WK mounted theirs. I like the idea alot, unfortunately it never panned out and I never heard anything else about it.
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last time i checked they came out right under where the license plate mounts. you're telling me something sticking out 10" from the lower part of the bumper isnt going to kill the approach angle? i'd like to see how that works.

anyway, the point of this post wasnt to get anyones opinion on approach angle, or their smartest and most efficient ideas.
Sure does stick out 10" and kill my approach angle....




You seem to have very little experience. When you get onto some harder trails, stuff where you might actually need a winch, you'll see when a steel bumper would come in handy. My front bumper is completely mangled and destroyed from getting rammed into rocks that it doesn't clear.
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last time i checked they came out right under where the license plate mounts. you're telling me something sticking out 10" from the lower part of the bumper isnt going to kill the approach angle? i'd like to see how that works.

anyway, the point of this post wasnt to get anyones opinion on approach angle, or their smartest and most efficient ideas.
Look in the picture above...they come out through the bumper, I don't see how thats going to kill your approach angle as thats not sitting below the bumper. However, I didn't take into account you meant you with the Actual Winch Still attached. It seemed like you were saying just the Receiver mount. Which as shown above, doesn't look like it causes a problem. I was just offering a solution. I wasn't being sarcastic. Seriously, the last time i looked into them, i didn't remember them jutting out below the bumper line...So dont be an ***...
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Sure does stick out 10" and kill my approach angle....




You seem to have very little experience. When you get onto some harder trails, stuff where you might actually need a winch, you'll see when a steel bumper would come in handy. My front bumper is completely mangled and destroyed from getting rammed into rocks that it doesn't clear.
you're telling me with a winch attatched to that it doesnt kill your approach angle?
and i have plenty of experience.
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