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Unread 01-13-2009, 11:48 PM   #1
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WJ Projector/HID Retrofit: Teaser Thread!

Good evening! Some of you may flame me for only posting a teaser/half baked project, but I spent two hours on my retro tonight and was excited to show off my progress

I'm sure most of you realize that the Jeep headlights are terrible, but I wasn't about to just install a PNP kit ( ) and new my the best option was a proper projector retrofit with an HID kit!

First of all, much thanks to 99avant (Ben), for hooking me up with a pair of extra WJ headlights to drive around with while I built my new lights! I also scored a pair of BMW 5 series projectors from a friend! Ultimately, I will do a retrofit with some TSX/FX projectors, but for the time being this is my experiment to see how things go!

Here is what I've done so far:
1. Remove all bulbs, gaskets, or any misc rubber from headlights
2. Place headlights in oven at 225 degrees for 7 minutes (make sure you monitor them to avoid any unnecessary plastic melting). One of my headlights pried apart easily after 7 minutes, but the other one needed an extra 5 minutes or so in oven before it could be persuaded to open up w/o damage to the casing.
3. Once you get the front clear lens off, the chrome (or black if you are using laredo headlights) section will just pop right out.
4. Now the most difficult part so far! The reflector piece of the headlight is attached by 3 ball and socket joints. This allows the lights to be aimed. They must be carefully, yet forcefully removed. Be extra careful not to damage them.

Steps to still complete:
1. Figure out how exactly the projectors will be mounted to the current set up. Commonly people just hack up the reflector and JB weld the new projectors in. I want to avoid this at all cost because I want to be able to aim my headlights as you would stock.
2. Find a good bezel and shroud to cover the exposed part of the projector
3. Install HID kit
4. AIM headlights
5. Enjoy en-LIGHT-ened driving!!

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BMW 5-series projectors


YUMMMMM.... Jeep parts!


Headlights all taken apart (forgot to take a picture after removing the reflectors... oh well)


Questions, comments, or thoughts....??

-Nick

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Unread 01-14-2009, 01:40 AM   #2
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Nice and don´t forget to update your project with more pics
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Unread 01-14-2009, 08:37 AM   #3
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ive been toying w/ this idea on my ZJ due to the fact that my headlights are horrible... and i haven't done much home-built stuff on it for a while ill deffinately be lurking to see how u go about it
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Unread 01-14-2009, 08:39 AM   #4
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Ive been toying with this idea for my WJ, keep updated dont leave us hanging!!! looks good so far!
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Unread 01-14-2009, 09:15 AM   #5
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Nice!
I wish I had the time and skill to do this, so I am glad the lights went to someone who does.

Are the projectors from a US Spec vehicle? For your final version, I would suggest getting your hands on some euro spec projectors. DOT regulations influenced automakers to slightly cloud us spec projectors. E-code projectors are much clearer and produce better output (While maintaining a proper cutoff).
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Unread 01-14-2009, 09:23 AM   #6
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Oh, and make sure you install the projectors right side up! The cutoff plate goes on the bottom, it is deceptive.
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Unread 01-14-2009, 09:56 AM   #7
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ive been toying w/ this idea on my ZJ due to the fact that my headlights are horrible... and i haven't done much home-built stuff on it for a while ill deffinately be lurking to see how u go about it
My ZJ lights are terrible! I hope to retro some projectors into ZJ housings when I am done with these. Problem is, you need an extremely short projector cuz there is no room behind the headlight for the back of the projector to stick out.

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Ive been toying with this idea for my WJ, keep updated dont leave us hanging!!! looks good so far!
I won't! These lights are going in my best friends jeep. Part of my motivation a for him, and part of my motivation is to help out all the jeep guys who have helped me solve so many of my personal jeep problems!

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Oh, and make sure you install the projectors right side up! The cutoff plate goes on the bottom, it is deceptive.
I was afraid of making this mistake so I put a little arrow on the projector with a sharpie!

I would have done some e-code projectors, but this is my first expirament retrofit. Any projector will be superior to a reflector housing, it just might not have the razor sharp cut off that all the hidplanet.com guys can get off too!!
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Unread 01-14-2009, 10:17 AM   #8
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thats why god invented hole-saws
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Unread 01-18-2009, 12:24 PM   #9
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Any progress on the WJ lights?
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Any progress?
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Alright, one more attempt.

Bump.

And progress?
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I'm going to bet he doesn't check this forum regularly.
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I apologize for being MIA!

Finals and school have been so busy that I haven't had a chance to finish up the lights yet, but have made some progress. So far I dremeled out the center portion of the low beam projector and have began working on the actual projector mounting. I also need to test fit the housings in the jeep to check for clearance (the bowl - or back portion of the projector - sticks out of the back of the lights a bit) and then get the projectors permanently mounted!

I am home on spring break without the lights but I will do my best to get pics and more updates next week when I am back at school!
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bump for progress pics!!!
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