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Unread 01-31-2005, 06:22 AM   #1
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WJ HID retrofit

Has anyone here done an HID retrofit in the WJ? I'm still trying to decide on what projectors to use. But if anyone has done it, could you post pics and say what you used for a bezel and shroud?

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Unread 01-31-2005, 10:07 AM   #2
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if you're looking to do that much reconstruction on the headlamp housings, you may as well just go with the projectors. could do without the "halo's," but you don't have to hook those up if you don't want to.

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Unread 01-31-2005, 11:32 AM   #3
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I'm not a fan of the aftermarket headlights. Plus, their quality and output isn't that great. The actual retrofit isn't that hard, especially if you've done it before. I like the OEM look and quality, nothing real flashy.
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Unread 01-31-2005, 11:52 AM   #4
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Many aftermarket so-called "HID" kits are not at all HID.

If you want a professionally done conversion of your factory lamps, send them (or a new/spare pair of lamp housings) to these guys:

http://www.illusion-lighting.com

It'll cost you $900-1000 but they do the heavy lifting (fitting projectors to your housings and designing new bezels for an OEM look) and all you'll need to do later is the installation.

Mind you, HIDs are illegal on vehicles that did not ship factory with HIDs. You may not pass inspection...so ask your local DOT before making the investment. Otherwise you'll end up with an expensive pair of paperweights. Check here for more information:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/216460
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Unread 01-31-2005, 12:05 PM   #5
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I know all about HIDs. I'm not talking about the "HID kits". I'm getting HID projectors out of a factory HID equiped car and putting them into mine. I did a retrofit on my Integra also. and there's no way i'm payin a grand for lights, that's crazy. I don't have the kind of funds for that...
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Unread 01-31-2005, 01:19 PM   #6
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If you've done them already then you know it's going to cost you around $300-600 for a decent set (e.g. a pair of E46 for example) with the ballasts and bulbs. Slightly more if you go bi-xenon. You'll also need the harness which probably runs around $60-100 depending on the source.

And if you want an OEM look you'll need to fabricate a decent set of bezels to hide the projector bodies. Most folks seem to modify bezels off of other vehicles that had stock HIDs which means you need to buy those lamp housings at a boneyard.

If you're handy you'll probably save yourself a couple hundred bucks. But after seeing the difference in quality between some of the home-brewed HID installations and the professional conversions, I'm biased towards just letting a pro do it for me.

I planned the same conversion. Then after reading about the number of people who invested in HIDs only to have to rip them out later to pass inspection....I decided to buy Kolak's lighting upgrade instead.
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12 Wrangler Sahara JK8 conversion, <10 miles (FOR SALE, $56,700)
01 WJ Limited, 4.7, 247, black on black, 157k miles (sold)
96 XJ Classic, 4.0, 242, black on grey, 267k miles (sold)
00 XJ Sport, 4.0, 242, fern green on grey, 76k miles (sold)
90 XJ Wagoneer, 4.0, 242, burgundy on tan, unknown mileage (sold)
97 ZJ Limited, 5.2, 249, black on black, 138k miles (wrecked 12/15/05)
98 ZJ Limited, 5.2, 249, burgundy on black, 197k miles (sold)
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What I wanna know is how all thses cars are getting inspected. My Jeep has never been inspected. What are you guys talking about???
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Unread 01-31-2005, 03:08 PM   #8
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I have a 96 zj and the only way I can go with hid's is the 9004 conversion kit. Depending on how bright I want then the cost runs from 400-800$. Unfortunately they don't make a projector style like the ones posted above to fit the zj. I wish they did...real hid's are the way to go. Do not believe anyone who says sylvania silvestars are great; compared to the hids I had they look plain yellow. My 2 cents on hids.
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What I wanna know is how all thses cars are getting inspected. My Jeep has never been inspected. What are you guys talking about???
Annual vehicle inspections. All it takes is one boyscout at an inspection station to ruin your day.
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12 Wrangler Sahara JK8 conversion, <10 miles (FOR SALE, $56,700)
01 WJ Limited, 4.7, 247, black on black, 157k miles (sold)
96 XJ Classic, 4.0, 242, black on grey, 267k miles (sold)
00 XJ Sport, 4.0, 242, fern green on grey, 76k miles (sold)
90 XJ Wagoneer, 4.0, 242, burgundy on tan, unknown mileage (sold)
97 ZJ Limited, 5.2, 249, black on black, 138k miles (wrecked 12/15/05)
98 ZJ Limited, 5.2, 249, burgundy on black, 197k miles (sold)
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honsitly I have never seen or heard of anything like this... the inspections that is...
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me either...i ran an open downpipe on my DSM for half a year lol..
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honsitly I have never seen or heard of anything like this... the inspections that is...

You need to get out more....
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Mine was just inspected (I just got the Jeep) so I don't have to worry about that. Even if I did and the HIDs did not pass, WJ headlights are pretty cheap, I already picked up a spare set of black housings for $50. I also already have Phillips ballasts so all I need is the projectors and capsules. I can get a pair of X5 bi-xenons and 4300K phillips capsules for $250 which isn't bat at all. as far as the bezels and shrouds go, there are plenty of DIY stuff that looks great. For shrouds you can youse things from coffee thermos', to PVC couplers to aluminum. Check out HID Planet for plenty of examples. Or you can just get a bezel from another car like Joseph said, and combine that with a DIY shroud. Ebay has the bezels fairly often. I'm a perfectionist, so it wont be some hack job, I'll be sure to post pics when it's all said and done
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Mine was just inspected (I just got the Jeep) so I don't have to worry about that. Even if I did and the HIDs did not pass, WJ headlights are pretty cheap, I already picked up a spare set of black housings for $50. I also already have Phillips ballasts so all I need is the projectors and capsules. I can get a pair of X5 bi-xenons and 4300K phillips capsules for $250 which isn't bat at all. as far as the bezels and shrouds go, there are plenty of DIY stuff that looks great. For shrouds you can youse things from coffee thermos', to PVC couplers to aluminum. Check out HID Planet for plenty of examples. Or you can just get a bezel from another car like Joseph said, and combine that with a DIY shroud. Ebay has the bezels fairly often. I'm a perfectionist, so it wont be some hack job, I'll be sure to post pics when it's all said and done
I can't wait...it'll be nice to see the conversion.

Also, if you come up with a way to disconnect the setup quickly to enable someone to disconnect the HIDs and plug in the stock lights once a year, then switch back quickly. Then I'd really love ya. :-)
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96 XJ Classic, 4.0, 242, black on grey, 267k miles (sold)
00 XJ Sport, 4.0, 242, fern green on grey, 76k miles (sold)
90 XJ Wagoneer, 4.0, 242, burgundy on tan, unknown mileage (sold)
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You need to get out more....

I get out plenty... I guess just not in the fun places...
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