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Unread 06-02-2013, 06:42 PM   #1
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why all these crazy high lifts without covering the basics first?

i don't understand people with 6"+ lifts with 35"+ tires without having their basics covered first. i would bet that 2" bb + 31" with a winch and a locker would be hell of a lot more practical than a bare rig with big tires. i know my 4"+33" combo with a winch has outperformed practically every vehicle i've gone out riding with so far. and majority of the times, i know i wouldn't even had to use my winch if i had a locker (god i can't wait until i get a locker. just can't afford an on-demand locker at the moment and i'm not gonna use a fulltime locker on my dd).

i was just looking at the lifted pics thread and noticed how many people have all these big tires without taking care of the basics first.

any thoughts on why people do this? just trying to show off at the mall?

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Unread 06-02-2013, 06:45 PM   #2
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Unread 06-02-2013, 06:48 PM   #3
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Not everyone with a lifted vehicle offroads? I also wouldn't call a winch or locker a "basic" of modifying suspensions.

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Unread 06-02-2013, 06:49 PM   #4
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Here in cali 35 are important for most trails I run, especially after I air down, but I can stuff my 35 in my fender wells only having to do some trimming and a 4" long arm
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Unread 06-02-2013, 06:50 PM   #5
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Not everyone with a lifted vehicle offroads? I also wouldn't call a winch or locker a "basic" of modifying suspensions.

why would anyone lift it when they don't plan it to take it offroading? it kills daily-driveability. also, i meant "basic" as in basics of building a rig, not necessarily just suspension mods.
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Unread 06-02-2013, 06:53 PM   #6
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It's a fad for a lot of the youngsters,kind of like the diesels with 8" lifts and 7" stacks Rollin coal,impractical but fun while it lasts.i agree though most of us daily drive our rigs and ill be sticking with my 5.5 long arms on 33's.

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Unread 06-02-2013, 07:01 PM   #7
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jack 'er up to 7inches and put some gumbo mudders on it !!! that seems to be what most want to do
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Unread 06-02-2013, 07:40 PM   #8
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I have noticed around here the owners running older jeeps know their stuff, but can spot the asshats easily. My favorite is the wiped on mud, would love to be at their house once they wash it. Unused bumper jacks and unwired floodlights are another dead giveaway, have seen those too.
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Unread 06-02-2013, 08:09 PM   #9
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i too would not call a winch "basics"

i do not have a winch, have never owned a vehicle with one, and honestly have no immidiate plans for getting one. Never wheel alone. Been wheeling for years, and have yet to not make it back because we didn't have a winch.

a locker however, i agree with. If you wheel, and are serious about it, you NEED a locker on at least one axle.

but as mentioned before, there are many who want a lifted jeep for the look of it and never have, never will see more than maybe a muddy field. That being said, i see many street jeeps with heavy bumpers and winches that i would say the winch has never been spooled out for what it is meant for.


and a decent driver will take a rig a long way as well. i have seen what should be aless capable rig go where more capable ones could not simply because of the driver. whether it was by skill, or sometimes brute force, the "Driver Mod" goes a loooong way.
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Unread 06-02-2013, 08:35 PM   #10
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Is it OK then to put on a 7" Lift, Not have the money to put the tires on for a month or so, Have a new front bumper, but not the rear to go with it, cause i haven't decided on what I want. Of course, then I still need to decide what winch I want. All I know is that it'll mount to a hitch mount. The Front bumper already has the box.

Course, the thing I really wonder is Why would ANYONE put a 1 1/4" hitch on ANY SUV, or truck. It came on my sis's ZJ(that's now mine).
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Unread 06-02-2013, 10:06 PM   #11
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I being a teenager see the appeal of taller trucks, gets the southern *****es at school. but for practicalities sake and for wheeling I'm doing a slower build up and trying to 'do it right'. We'll see how it turns out after the next lift.
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Unread 06-02-2013, 10:07 PM   #12
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Doubtful, but maybe a few of them are actually being smart. Everyone on here says do it right the first time, go long arm off the bat saves money in the end over buying a cheap lift and upgrading later. Which is true.
That being said that's a lot of money, so winch and lockers are probably in the plans at some point.

I'm running 4" w/ 31" tires and go most everywhere I want too, yes lockers, bumpers, winch are in the plans but gotta distract the wife first.
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and a decent driver will take a rig a long way as well. i have seen what should be aless capable rig go where more capable ones could not simply because of the driver. whether it was by skill, or sometimes brute force, the "Driver Mod" goes a loooong way.
Cue that youtube video of the guy going up the chute in Moab without a spotter. Open diff XJ on 33's and he climbs it like most of us would a curb...

[EDIT] This one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxVhIDduft8
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Unread 06-02-2013, 11:55 PM   #14
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Down here in the swamps 35's will get you a lot further than a winch and 31's will. My winch is a 30ft tug boat rope and a buggy on 62" s
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Unread 06-03-2013, 02:10 AM   #15
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Let me first qualify the following statement by letting it be known that my Jeep is ONLY for off-roading, it is NOT a DD. Its only a toy, and as such, it just needs to do what I want it to do. Ok, that said, I don't think its any of my business why anyone wants to lift their Jeep, whether its for off-road duty or purely for the cool look. Its their money, its their Jeep, its their business. My only concern is for safety and that anyone performing these modifications does it in such a manner that it doesn't endanger their lives, or worse, the lives of their passengers and others on the road. Wanna throw 7" and some 35's under it just to impress the ladies? Go for it. But do it safely.
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