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Unread 09-21-2014, 12:54 PM   #1
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Where to find brake anti rattle clips

My steering knuckles are worn where the brake pads slide. My green stuff pads did not come with the sheet metal pieces that snap in there. I have welded the grooves and grounds them smooth on other ZJ's but I still want these to prevent damage. I tried every parts store in my area and google. Thanks

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Unread 09-21-2014, 01:35 PM   #2
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I think what you are looking for is called an abutment clip. They snap onto the slides to protect them. I looked for a very long time trying to find them with no luck. A brake shop may have an answer, but none around me did. I think I did find some kind of clip that comes in different thickness to take up slop. I'll have to try and find them later, cause I've been up since 2AM and am fairly close to falling out,
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Most of the aftermarket pads I've bought (but not all) came with the shims to set the pads end play at 0.015". They don't work much if you have grooves. Someone on here did find some stainless slides from another vehicle that worked should be able to find it in the search. I don't know if a thin piece of stainless isn't going to just buckle under the brake thrust from the pads but it probably helps some. I'd just weld them if it were me.
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was this used on only the early ZJs? I have never seen these on any of my other ZJs before.
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None of the ZJs I've owned have had those clips, and the pad set I got for the Orvis came with all application-specific hardware, which is to say none at all.

I'm pretty sure ZJs don't use those clips.
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Unread 09-22-2014, 12:25 PM   #6
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I've only ever worked on mine but it had pad shims when I bought it and every pad set I've bought since then except one has had them. Just looking around RockAuto plenty of pad sets come with them. See the pic. They make a difference. Without them my pads were rattling on bumps in the road and clicking when I hit the brakes. They also spread the pad load out over a bigger area so they probably will keep the knuckle from getting grooved as fast. They aren't wide clips like other vehicles, just a little shim that snaps on the end of the pad.
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I remember somebody on here buying some full SS clips for another kind of vehicle and grinding/bending them to make them fit his ZJ brake slides but can't remember who it was?

As far as rattling goes I've used the below "CRC Disc Brake Quiet" on all my Jeeps for years on the backs of the pads where they meet the caliper and piston while never have any brake rattling. Even after taking the brakes off after a couple years the pads are still adhered to the pistons/calipers so some pretty good stuff. Just don't get any on the pad material itself.

http://www.amazon.com/CRC-Disc-Brake.../dp/B000CINV88

BTW, I run Wagner ceramic pads on all my Jeeps and while they used to supply the SS small clips Federal Mogul who owns Wagner brakes went on the cheap where they don't supply them with the pads anymore.
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can someone post a picture of where/how these clips are supposed to be installed? I can't find anything about them in the FSM and when I do my front brakes I want to put these in.
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Here is a link to a ZJ anti-rattle clip for the front calipers:

See it here.

See this thread for installation pics.
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Older thread on the same subject and click on the image in the post to blow it up.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f13/a.../#post12278003

Not to be confused with the anti-rattle springs also discussed in that thread.
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Older thread on the same subject and click on the image in the post to blow it up.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f13/a.../#post12278003

Not to be confused with the anti-rattle springs also discussed in that thread.
that is awesome. I have not seen those before, but I will make sure my next pads have those in the box. thank you.
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My steering knuckles are worn where the brake pads slide. My green stuff pads did not come with the sheet metal pieces that snap in there. I have welded the grooves and grounds them smooth on other ZJ's but I still want these to prevent damage. I tried every parts store in my area and google. Thanks
I got some off eBay (anti rattle clip) pain to install but work great
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that is awesome. I have not seen those before, but I will make sure my next pads have those in the box. thank you.
YW and here's another post which better explains how you measure the gap between the pad/knuckle slide to tell which size clip you use in a kit.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f13/z...5/#post8698314
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None of the ZJs I've owned have had those clips, and the pad set I got for the Orvis came with all application-specific hardware, which is to say none at all.

I'm pretty sure ZJs don't use those clips.
If you dont want grooves worn into the flat spots that your pads slide on (part of the steering knuckle) then you should use them. Its not a matter of some cars using them and some not
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Most of the aftermarket pads I've bought (but not all) came with the shims to set the pads end play at 0.015". They don't work much if you have grooves. Someone on here did find some stainless slides from another vehicle that worked should be able to find it in the search. I don't know if a thin piece of stainless isn't going to just buckle under the brake thrust from the pads but it probably helps some. I'd just weld them if it were me.
Like you said with grooves the shims that set on the ears/tabs of the brake pads wont work.
There is very essentially no pressure from the pads on these. The ears/tabs of the pads just slide on the surface. There is no way they could ever be buckled.
Ive welded them and ground them smooth on other jeeps before. It works but without using these, you are just asking for the same problem in the future. (of course the welded areas will be harder than stock)
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