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Unread 03-30-2012, 07:45 AM   #9826
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I bought some lights. They were 20$ for a pair. Thought they were fogs. Got home and read they were driving lights. Should I put them on or take them back and get fogs?

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Unread 03-30-2012, 08:01 AM   #9827
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I read this when U posted it before.
Kinda scary ,but the outcome Sounds good.
Just to be clear you are talking about Diesel Fuel ?
Could U use kerosene ?
Yes, he's talking about diesel fuel. Kerosene works too. I'd personally mix in a quart or 2 of oil just for a little extra bearing protection.

However, if you don't have any major issues that might be sludge related, but think your engine needs some cleaning, you're better off with Marvel Mystery Oil or another slower cleaning method (these just get mixed in with engine oil and driven normally). Cleaning too fast does have a risk of depositing crap in places you don't want it (slower cleaning dissolves the junk, rather than just rinsing it off the surface it's on), such as removing it from on top of the heads, and blocking oil returns, or the oil pump pickup.
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Unread 03-30-2012, 08:04 AM   #9828
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Badbird knows his ****... I'd love to try that.
Oh, im sure he does. Imma try this badbird. See if I dont throw a rod or something.... Thanks for the great info...
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Unread 03-30-2012, 08:12 AM   #9829
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Yes, he's talking about diesel fuel. Kerosene works too. I'd personally mix in a quart or 2 of oil just for a little extra bearing protection.

However, if you don't have any major issues that might be sludge related, but think your engine needs some cleaning, you're better off with Marvel Mystery Oil or another slower cleaning method (these just get mixed in with engine oil and driven normally). Cleaning too fast does have a risk of depositing crap in places you don't want it (slower cleaning dissolves the junk, rather than just rinsing it off the surface it's on), such as removing it from on top of the heads, and blocking oil returns, or the oil pump pickup.
This is absolutely correct. Im not a fan of a long clean as then your putting loads on the bearings with not as good of lubrication, but this is a commonly used practice. I would imagine 3 qts of trans fluid alone would do an awesome quick clean, but I didn't have any trans fluid laying around. The trans fluid would be safer too as our transmissions run under load with just it all the time.
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Unread 03-30-2012, 08:52 AM   #9830
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Eh, tranny fluid isn't as great a cleaner as some think. Early tranny fluids had more cleaning ability than modern stuff, and early oils had a lot less. Most of the cleaning effect it does have comes from thinning out the oil so it rinses crap out better.

As far as long cleans, the key is to use something oil based (and it's usually a quart in with the oil) that cleans by detergents, etc. Stay away from stuff like Seafoam for long cleaning, as it's solvent based, which you don't want in there if the engine is under any load at all.
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Unread 03-30-2012, 09:22 AM   #9831
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Doesn't type f trans fluid have more of the detergents? On the av, which I did a lot more on, the filter mount was black, now it looks brand new. The av got 2qt diesel, one qt trans, 5 min run time. Then I drained it and did it again, this time I let it sit after 5 min run time. After it sat for about 30 mins I fired it up again for 3-4 mins run time. When I dropped it the second time there where the little chunks of carbon in the filter. The av was so bad that the filter was cold Everytime I changed the oil, telling me it was being clogged by all the crap. The mutt picked up some op too, but I haven't really got it completely warmed up on a long drive to see where it is at.

Stores sell a motor flush but I have never tried any, and I've read they are basically diesel and trans fluid. This is a easier for many option.
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Unread 03-30-2012, 09:49 AM   #9832
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Decided I'm keeping the driving lights. What fuse should I run to from the switch. Preferably in the fuse box on the passenger side kick panel.
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Unread 03-30-2012, 01:18 PM   #9833
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Decided I'm keeping the driving lights. What fuse should I run to from the switch. Preferably in the fuse box on the passenger side kick panel.
You should run a fuse between the battery and the RELAY. Never power anything through a switch itself. Calls for bad times and a visit from the fire department when your Jeep goes up in flames. It's worth the extra wire.

As for the fuse size, I'd run maybe a 15 or a 20amp.
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Unread 03-30-2012, 02:30 PM   #9834
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You should run a fuse between the battery and the RELAY. Never power anything through a switch itself. Calls for bad times and a visit from the fire department when your Jeep goes up in flames. It's worth the extra wire.

As for the fuse size, I'd run maybe a 15 or a 20amp.
There already is a fuse. Came with it. The instructions said either run it to battery or to a fuse. I went and was lookin at it and I'm gonna need tabs to mount them to the bumper. I'm gonna have my uncle make them 2in bent in an L shape and just mount the light to it and mount it to the bumper. Without the cover. But how would I mount it to the bumper? Could just mig it on there and not worry about it
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Unread 03-30-2012, 05:25 PM   #9835
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You should run a fuse between the battery and the RELAY. Never power anything through a switch itself. Calls for bad times and a visit from the fire department when your Jeep goes up in flames. It's worth the extra wire.

As for the fuse size, I'd run maybe a 15 or a 20amp.


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That's the switch it came with. I'm gonna get a smaller one.it would be easier to mount

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That's the fuse box it came with. Has a 15 amp fuse. I'll use it.

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And there's the lights

Should I just run it to the battery with the fuse inline then to the other switch I'm getting. Then to the lights
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Unread 03-30-2012, 05:26 PM   #9836
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That's the switch it came with. I'm gonna get a smaller one.it would be easier to mount

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That's the fuse box it came with. Has a 15 amp fuse. I'll use it.

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And there's the lights

Should I just run it to the battery with the fuse inline then to the other switch I'm getting. Then to the lights
I would use a relay.
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Unread 03-30-2012, 05:30 PM   #9837
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I would use a relay.
Sorry I don't know a whole lot about switches and relays and crap. What does a relay do?
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Unread 03-30-2012, 05:37 PM   #9838
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relays are switched circuits that can take higher amounts of current(amps)

This is a good read and use the diagram in the middle of the page
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Unread 03-30-2012, 05:39 PM   #9839
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Relays do different things depending on what kind. Not sure why you would use a relay. Being a non certified factory electrician I would just wire it to the switch but do a ground switch. Meaning make the positive your constant and put the ground on the switch. That's what I would do anyway
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Unread 03-30-2012, 05:40 PM   #9840
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