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post #9496 of 44140 Old 03-21-2012, 07:56 PM
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My steering wheel reacts almost instantly. I've had a bad box before so I know what that feels like. It steers like a truck (I'm not calling the Jeep a truck, only using it for comparison) with a solid front axle should. The caster definitely contributes to the bump steer, but that's not bad. It's just something she's not used to. She just didn't like driving it and was finding reasons to complain about it. I doubt a new truck, with a similar setup, would steer any better, without regard to the slight bump steer I have. New cars have very sensitive steering, especially when they're equipped with speed sensitive steering. I have a hard time keeping her car straight once it gets up to speed on the highway for the first few minutes. My brain has to get used to the way her wheel reacts.


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my jeep steers like my old ladys saturn ion, but those things suck so maybe thats why lol

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I guess it's somewhat similar to my cousin's SL2. The ZJ is definitely similar to my Caprice as far as response goes; the Caprice is a lot lighter though. That was definitely designed with old people in mind. Newer cars have really come a long way with steering feel compared to older vehicles.

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I guess it's somewhat similar to my cousin's SL2. The ZJ is definitely similar to my Caprice as far as response goes; the Caprice is a lot lighter though. That was definitely designed with old people in mind. Newer cars have really come a long way with steering feel compared to older vehicles.
the ion is basically a chevy colbalt, but it has some POS electric power steering (which is probably very similar to what a cruz has)

the caprice is alot lighter than your ZJ? arent those things are like 5000lbs?

but they should steer similar as they still used the old school recirculating ball steering opposed to rack and pinion on todays cars/pos trucks

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It's recirculating ball like the ZJ. What I meant by lighter is the steering gearing is different to make the wheel a lot easier to turn. The car is like 4800 or 4900 pounds. Body on frame for the win.

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STUPID, STUPID ROOKIE MISTAKE TONIGHT!!!!!!!!

Didnt know that something as simple as changing the oil would PISS me off so much.

Emptied out oil pan with no problems.. Took off the filter with a little hassle. nothing too bad. Installed the new oil filter, and filled up with new oil.

ALL the new oil spilled out through the oil filter.. So, I check the oil filter, and its not on right. Do it again and spills oil again. WTF!!!!!

Rookie mistake: the old oil filter oring stayed stuck on the block, and caused me a night of hell.....that and tomorrow i gotta go buy another 6qts of oil. Most expensive "conventional oil" change ive done ever in my life. approx $65.

The worst part is that I am a well knowledged mechanic, and this was just a STUPID STUPID ROOKIE MISTAKE.......

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At least your oil filler cap didn't break off in your valve cover. I was most definitely pissed yesterday when I changed my oil. Any of my neighbors that saw me throw a fit probably got a decent laugh out of it. Of course I managed to find out it was broke and stuck after I drained all the oil too.

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At least your oil filler cap didn't break off in your valve cover. I was most definitely pissed yesterday when I changed my oil. Any of my neighbors that saw me throw a fit probably got a decent laugh out of it. Of course I managed to find out it was broke and stuck after I drained all the oil too.
haha, man that sucks. You know, now that you mention oil caps. I got them on both valve covers. Is that normal for all 5.2's. Hmm, search time...

Oh, and I was so pissed off at mine, my wife had to stop me from hitting it with a shovel i was using to put dirt on all the oil on the floor.

Bit$% was about to get PARTED OUT!!!!!!

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Caps on both valve covers isn't normal. One should have the cap and the PCV valve and the other has the oil breather.

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Caps on both valve covers isn't normal. One should have the cap and the PCV valve and the other has the oil breather.
uhhhhhh!!!! i guess someone, sometime ago changed that. I have them on both valve covers. always thought it was weird, but now that I actually pay attention to it, it isnt right......hmmm...

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uhhhhhh!!!! i guess someone, sometime ago changed that. I have them on both valve covers. always thought it was weird, but now that I actually pay attention to it, it isnt right......hmmm...
Gotta love POs.

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uhhhhhh!!!! i guess someone, sometime ago changed that. I have them on both valve covers. always thought it was weird, but now that I actually pay attention to it, it isnt right......hmmm...
pass side:


drivers side.

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Currie CurrectLync steering, weights like 50lbs



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Currie CurrectLync steering, weights like 50lbs



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Went wheelin, it was fun til the end



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On our way out we found some mud so we hit it, my buddies discovery startee bogging then died a few mins later. We took a look at it, air filter was soaked but nothing got through. Then we saw the fan, every blade was missing and the shroud was all torn up.



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^^ Notice the fan blades on the ground.

So we decide to hobble it home. I get back in the ZJ which was idling behind it the whole time. Check gage light is on and the temp is just below 260. I shut it off. Fan isnt working, but its getting power. Pulled the thermostat just in case, helped a little. Hobbled it home, stopping twice to let it cool. Pulled the fan and sprayed layers of mud off the radiator, helped a lot, still gets hot at idle. Getting new fan motor tomorrow

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