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Unread 01-13-2012, 10:29 AM   #7066
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Use 4PT. 4Lo is a lot more helpful when crawling up something. Part time locks the front and rear axles 50/50. Full time uses an open diff technology for AWD.

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Unread 01-13-2012, 10:47 AM   #7067
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Use 4PT. 4Lo is a lot more helpful when crawling up something. Part time locks the front and rear axles 50/50. Full time uses an open diff technology for AWD.
Why can't you use 4PT on dry pavement then? I think it is only to be used on loose surfaces; mud, dirt and gravel?

When usuing 4LO, how is the power disturbuted? Like 4FT power is 25% at each wheel, 4PT it is 50% front and 50% rear and then what about 4LO?
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Unread 01-13-2012, 10:51 AM   #7068
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Why can't you use 4PT on dry pavement then? I think it is only to be used on loose surfaces; mud, dirt and gravel?

When usuing 4LO, how is the power disturbuted? Like 4FT power is 25% at each wheel, 4PT it is 50% front and 50% rear and then what about 4LO?
25% at each wheel would be 50% front and 50% rear. You lost me on what you're asking.

4 lo is locked center and both ends are open still. 4 PT is the same way but higher gear sets, 4 FT is an open center (I wouldn't know if they did any distribution on these or not)
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Unread 01-13-2012, 11:00 AM   #7069
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4 PT binds on dry pavement because the front and rear axle spin at the same speed. As Somebody once said... 4 PT and 4 LO are the same except for much different gearing.
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Unread 01-13-2012, 11:06 AM   #7070
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It is pretty and all but I've always been a function over form Guy. I don't care what it looks like if it will get me from a to b. I like hearing " that thing looks like it will go places " vs " well that's a pretty Jeep". To each their own and everyone has their own place on jf.

Edit: although I do find it a bit silly that the cleanest zj I've ever seen has "mud" on its license plate.
Also glad to here everyone was ok on the ice adventure
I've done my fair share of hard off road fun, but after rolling a jeep I take it easier now. Right now I have 5 jeeps (2 for parts), 2 quad runners (1 4x4 utility, 1 racing) and a dirt bike.
My Niner will be an expedition vehicle that looks good and will go most anywhere. I do a lot of photography and plan on using it for getting to remote places to shoot photos and have fun. It has to be 100% reliable because I will often be going alone.
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Unread 01-13-2012, 11:13 AM   #7071
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4 PT binds on dry pavement because the front and rear axle spin at the same speed. As Somebody once said... 4 PT and 4 LO are the same except for much different gearing.
Listen to them. I have command track, but I never use 4w (L or H) on dry surfaces.
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Unread 01-13-2012, 11:15 AM   #7072
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I've done my fair share of hard off road fun, but after rolling a jeep I take it easier now. Right now I have 5 jeeps (2 for parts), 2 quad runners (1 4x4 utility, 1 racing) and a dirt bike.
My Niner will be an expedition vehicle that looks good and will go most anywhere. I do a lot of photography and plan on using it for getting to remote places to shoot photos and have fun. It has to be 100% reliable because I will often be going alone.
Here's an example of what I shoot, click and drag to turn photo, use mouse wheel to zoom.
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Sweet pic! But no Jeep in it =P
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Unread 01-13-2012, 12:03 PM   #7073
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After driving a beater ZJ for ten years sometimes when you get older, you just want your stuff to be nice.
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Unread 01-13-2012, 12:17 PM   #7074
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After driving a beater ZJ for ten years sometimes when you get older, you just want your stuff to be nice.
Agreed, but my other stuff is my nice stuff. Each of my vehicles serve their own purpose, it just so happens that my zjs purposes are to take beatings. I am jealous of his zj, I think it's one of the nicer ones ive seen.
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Unread 01-13-2012, 12:25 PM   #7075
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Everyone who knows me knows I pride my self on my vehicles, and that mine are the nicest of their kind around, but it's so nice having a couple cheap ones that all I have to care is if they are mechanically sound, and simply just don't care about. It's kind of like having the best woman on earth, but also having that freak on the side. Lol
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Unread 01-13-2012, 12:34 PM   #7076
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After driving a beater ZJ for ten years sometimes when you get older, you just want your stuff to be nice.
I gave up on trying to make vehicles that are more then 10 years old "like new". I have realized in most cases it's just a losing battle. That's why I bought my motorcycle brand new and not used.
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Unread 01-13-2012, 01:05 PM   #7077
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4 PT binds on dry pavement because the front and rear axle spin at the same speed. As Somebody once said... 4 PT and 4 LO are the same except for much different gearing.
When I had it in 4LO, my little display was saying 4PT
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Unread 01-13-2012, 01:08 PM   #7078
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When I had it in 4LO, my little display was saying 4PT
Did you switch cases. It sounds like you need to switch wires on the Vic
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Unread 01-13-2012, 01:08 PM   #7079
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25% at each wheel would be 50% front and 50% rear. You lost me on what you're asking.

4 lo is locked center and both ends are open still. 4 PT is the same way but higher gear sets, 4 FT is an open center (I wouldn't know if they did any distribution on these or not)
When I was asking about the power distribution, I meant of 4LO. But since someone said that 4LO is like 4PT with the exception of different gearing, that means 50% of the power is at the front and 50% of the power is at the rear. In 4FT the power is 25% at each wheels
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Unread 01-13-2012, 01:10 PM   #7080
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Did you switch cases. It sounds like you need to switch wires on the Vic
I have a 242 Selec-Trac transfer case. So it makes sense that on my display the 4PT was lit up. 4LO is the same as 4PT with different gearing
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