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Unread 12-04-2011, 03:43 PM   #6031
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Took a trip to the junk yard just to see if there where any new jeeps.
Not much new, but I did find a few things to pull like these hooks ($24), also got a front differential cover ($14).
Still looking for a Dana 44a differential cover that I can have powder coated when my roof rack is done.



I believe my niner came with the upcountry package with the springs.
It has the tow package but no trany cooler up front, also has no tow hooks but they may have been remove when the grill guard was installed.

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Unread 12-04-2011, 03:56 PM   #6032
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They didn't come with the up country coils. The Upcountry Suspension package was optional on the 5.2 (Standard on Orvis edition), but was not available on the 5.9. The UpCountry package included tow hooks, skid plates, full-size spare, larger tires, taller springs, and different shocks and bump stops.
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'93-'98 V8 Grand Cherokee UpCountry Suspension:

By: Scott Mueller

The factory UpCountry Suspension option includes slightly taller (and stiffer) springs, special Sachs-Boge German made gas shocks, thicker jounce bumpers (the bumpers and cups are the same, the only differences are small aluminum spacers are added between the cups and frame both front and rear), and special rear spring upper isolators.

From '93 to '95 the UpCountry (code AWE) suspension was available on both Limited and Laredo model Grand Cherokees. In '96 it was available on the Laredo only, and not on the Limited. In '97 and '98 UpCountry was again available on the Limited. Exceptions to this are the Orvis models from '95-'97 which included the UpCountry suspension as standard equipment, and the '98 5.9 Limited, for which UpCountry was not available from the factory.

After having a '96 Orvis with standard UpCountry suspension, and comparing the ride and handling to other ZJs without the upgraded suspension, I knew how much it improved the handling of the vehicle on the road as well as off. As such I was disappointed to learn that I could not get the UpCountry package on the 5.9 Limited for '98. Fortunately this problem can be easily rectified by purchasing the parts that make up the package over the counter, and installing them myself.

Even though I have no intentions of taking my GC off-road I installed the UpCountry suspension on my 5.9 Limited as in my testing it dramatically improves on-the-road as well as off-road handling. It also raises the truck about one inch overall as compared to the standard suspension, which helps in the deep winter snow we get here in Chicago plus it gives a slightly more commanding view of the road.

The stiffer springs and firmly damped shocks which are part of the UpCountry suspension group really improve both the ride and handling of the GC. My 5.9 Limited already had the factory skid plate and tow-hook package which is also included as a part of the UpCountry Suspension group, but those parts do nothing for handling.

If you want to install the UpCountry package on a '93-'98 ZJ as I have, then you need the following parts from your Jeep dealer: Part # Description Net ea. Total
52088363 Code GN front springs $31.69 $63.38
52089145 Code JJ rear springs 36.37 72.74
52037555 Rear spring isolators 6.90 13.80
52005645 Front jounce bumper spacers 7.01 14.02
52087675 Rear jounce bumper spacers 5.59 11.18


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Unread 12-04-2011, 04:02 PM   #6033
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beat it like a red headed step child

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Unread 12-04-2011, 05:10 PM   #6034
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How much you running in the tires?
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Unread 12-04-2011, 05:12 PM   #6035
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They didn't come with the up country coils. The Upcountry Suspension package was optional on the 5.2 (Standard on Orvis edition), but was not available on the 5.9. The UpCountry package included tow hooks, skid plates, full-size spare, larger tires, taller springs, and different shocks and bump stops.
I pulled out one of my niner's front springs and its length is 18"



Here's the part number FN 5208 8362. It's not an upcountry, must have just been the larger tires that made it look higher than most of the others.

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Unread 12-04-2011, 05:20 PM   #6036
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Took a trip to the junk yard just to see if there where any new jeeps.
Not much new, but I did find a few things to pull like these hooks ($24), also got a front differential cover ($14).
You looking to sell those hooks? I don't want them but I know todd4198 would like them.
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Unread 12-04-2011, 05:22 PM   #6037
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Everyone above is correct, the 5.9 only got a partial upcountry package as an option (skids and hooks, but not springs and shocks).

On topic, I put another 350+ miles on it today.
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Unread 12-04-2011, 05:53 PM   #6038
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How much you running in the tires?
only had about 3-4 PSI. Blew two off teh bead that day though
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Unread 12-04-2011, 07:02 PM   #6039
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only had about 3-4 PSI. Blew two off teh bead that day though
I was going to say...

I have trouble keeping tires on any lower than 12 pounds, but I'm running guard dogs with bfg casings, so they really flatten out as you pull air out of them as the sidewalls are well broken in..


Here's a carnage pic from yesterday, can't see it much unless you look at the lights/shadows in the doors but I got both passangers doors pretty good, dunno how the mirrors still on



And here's a video of the guys I was with (small group but it was fun) there's a clip of me near the end, everyone was laughing at how I climbed it effortlessly and everyone else had to give her hell to get it (yota didn't do too bad though)
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Unread 12-04-2011, 07:04 PM   #6040
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Well, this wasn't to the Jeep, but for it. I finally cleaned out and organized the garage so I can pull the Jeep in for the winter maintenance and upgrades.
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Unread 12-04-2011, 07:42 PM   #6041
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I was going to say...

I have trouble keeping tires on any lower than 12 pounds, but I'm running guard dogs with bfg casings, so they really flatten out as you pull air out of them as the sidewalls are well broken in..


Here's a carnage pic from yesterday, can't see it much unless you look at the lights/shadows in the doors but I got both passangers doors pretty good, dunno how the mirrors still on
after that i aired them up to about 12 to make sure they stayed on, but that really hampered me later in the day.

and the mirrors on these things are tough for sure. both mine are gone, but they took a beating before they came off.
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Unread 12-04-2011, 07:47 PM   #6042
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after that i aired them up to about 12 to make sure they stayed on, but that really hampered me later in the day.

and the mirrors on these things are tough for sure. both mine are gone, but they took a beating before they came off.
Damn right, I had the passangers mirror pushing the glass in, I had to put the window down because I thought the glass was going to break. Then the mirror proceeded to push in a few more inches haha, didn't seem to do anything besides scratch it a bit haha
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Unread 12-04-2011, 09:29 PM   #6043
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BIIIIIG DAY!!!! my gf escort (wit hthe stickers; i wanna be a jeep) mysteriously transformed into a GC Laredo i6 with 157000 miles.......WHAT A SURPRISE!!!! its great picked it up for 1500 and its in mint condition minus the faded bumpers. 249 case and vc is still good due to proper care so she is very very happy and here is a pic of us together. my front bumper is gone and the push aint done yet i have little bodywork to do on mine then we can start lifting our loved ones

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Unread 12-05-2011, 09:47 AM   #6044
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Filled it up and drove it to school. It's amazing how much better it drives with new shocks and a hooked up sway bar lol. Last week I drove it to school with blown shocks and a busted sway bar link along with a non-existent tranny mount. Transmission mount is still gone and clunks really bad but the fact that it's driving like a caddy makes up for the clunking.
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Unread 12-05-2011, 10:58 AM   #6045
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i got my warn lights today so excited!!!!
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